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Jeep Liberty, Diesel, SUV
#103 of 178 Re: The concept was good but.............. [i_am]
Jun 20, 2011 (7:09 pm)
I agree, this is NOT a good situation and would sour me as well.
I'm having trouble understanding why so many problems with one vehicle. I feel a bit guilty as I have only had the EGR and torque convertor problems both covered by warranty and a rental car furnished.
If the vehicle was still under warranty when you complained about the noise in the rear axle it should have been covered if you kept the paperwork. But again, that might depend on the willingness of the dealer to stick up for customers. My dealer bends over backwards to help his customers.
I am concerned with the trans rebuild. That is a very rugged unit and should not have gone out so soon. Mine is shifting a bit sluggish now between 2 - 3 but it is due for a full scale maintenance so I chalk it up to that. I have pulled trailer loads of firewood out of the woods and a heavy camper for long distances with no trouble from the trans.
I have had NO problems with my 2005 other then the recalls and the EGR. I must have been given the really good EGR at about 12k because it is still working perfectly at 106k and I have not done anything to it.
In sure hope this is the end of your troubles. From the sound of it you should have burned up all the bad luck by now.
#104 of 178 Re: The concept was good but.............. [i_am]
Jun 20, 2011 (11:29 pm)
thanks i am, I had that rear sound start within the first 1000 miles after I purchased it off the lot at 40 miles on the odometer. I took it to three different dealers. One was waiting for corporate to figure it out. 2nd replaced brake pads with ceramic and I forget what the third did because it improved but was not solved. At 27k, alternator went and up into the warranty 70k
I had countless repairs under warranty like you but different issues. None of the EGR valve issue. Issue at 62k under warranty had propeller shaft with universal joints replaced transfer case to front axle and at 65 k the same dealer did the same work again under warranty. This is when that sound FINALLY stopped completely. So I figure that was the problem area causing the sound. At 70k I had my last problem and hoped since so many things had been replaced that maybe I could count on another 70k of a reliable vehicle. So far so good. I take it in manana for the oil change and fuel filter separator unit replacement. And I will get a second opinion on the status of the brakes,shocks and struts needing replacement. You'd think I drove this thing over boulders and through rivers. It has macho torque and good towing muscle which I do not tow but 1k lbs. 12-16 times per yr 150 miles. But the rest of this is totally sissy city 4x rather than a real outback vehicle. Fortunately I found a real diesel mechanic 150 miles away and I am looking forward to his input because the dealers are impotent when it comes to servicing the crd, they literally know next to nothing and so I think that adds to the problems. Agreed this rogue automaker should be cast-sized and license pulled. Oh yeah buy American and bend over. Treasonous pigs. When screwing your fellow Americans to unjustly enrich yourself at our expense goes out of in-vogue, maybe we will have then true fellowship and a reformed economy based on quality goods and real morals. cheers
#105 of 178 Re: Lemon? [offthegrider]
Jun 21, 2011 (7:32 pm)
Hi, not sure if I ever replied to you, was just reading through the various messages.
1. Provent system. Simple install, saves your erg valve and turbo from excess oil and gunk.
2. In tank fuel pump (from a 2002-2006 dodfe diesel ick-up). The CRD pulls the fuel from the tank, any minor air leaks and your dead in the water. this set up puts a light pressure on the system and saves wear and tear on your main pump plus overcomes the weaknesses in the stock fuel filter set-up. If you have a minor leak you will not breeak down.
3. I replaced my stock air filter with a drop in AFE dry high flow air filter. It is much more efficient than stock and a little less efficient than a K&N, but no oiling and all you have to do is vacuum it occassionally. I personally do not like the mess of a K&N and they void warrenties because over oiling can hurt your engine.
4. Transgo shift kit, a pretty easy install and like $40. gives you firmer shifts.
5. GRD eco tune, they fine tune your computer to get the most out of your CRD, can increase your MPG by 2 to 4. gives you more power.
6. Sedimentator, this was just a neat little thing I came across it is a pre -fuel filter. Has no element just a drain pitcock. The fuel swirls through it seperating the larger particles and water before going to the main pump.
I would only do this with the along with the in-tank pump because without it you wold be putting more stress on the original pump.
7. I put on an ARB front bumper, mainly because I only carry liability insurance and I like a true ramming bumper over the plastic. It also makes the Liberty look a bit more masculine.
8. I run Amsoil synthetic oil in everything.
I am getting around 24+MPG around town and 30+MPG on long trips.
Hope this helps: Bob
#106 of 178 2005 Diesel - Solution found for intermittent stopping
Jul 29, 2011 (8:34 pm)
My 2005 Jeep Liberty with 100K idled fine but if I tried to drive it, it stopped. I had it diagnosed and the diesel mechanic put a Cummings fuel pump in the tank. Runs great now. Why? Think about it... If the fuel is operating with a negative pressure, any leaks let air into the line. With a pump pushing and making a positive line pressure, leaks allow fuel out of the line but no air to the engine.
#107 of 178 Re: 2005 Diesel - Solution found for intermittent stopping [libertylooms]
Jul 30, 2011 (7:16 pm)
This is a common upgrade, from what I have read, the CRD was designed to have the in-tank pump. The earlier European models have it and it has the wiring in place for it. Jeep cut it out to same a few more $$ in production costs.
You are fortunate to have found a mechanic that is aware of this.
After doing much research within 30 days of buying my 2006 CRD I put in the in-tank pump, Provent system, Transgo shift kit, high flow ait filter and had the computer re-programmed by Green Diesel.
this was all preventative measurements do to reading articles written by backyard CRD mechanics.
#108 of 178 Who is Happy with their Jeep Liberty CRD?
Aug 04, 2011 (12:21 pm)
I couldnt be happier with the car as a whole. Have had no trouble with the engine. I have a 2005 Liberty CRD Limited with 45k miles. I hope to have it a long time. The only problem I have ever had with the car in any capacity is only with possibly a design flaw or crummy parts regarding the windows. The windows work very well going up and down but then it turns 5 o'clock somewhere and the window slips down into the door. I have had every window replaced at least once and one window (passenger front) replaced now 5 times. A bit more than annoying. It isnt the heat or cold as they have broken even with the best of weather. Supposedly they installed the newer windows with a heavier duty part but I think that is just a smoke screen. Since I have had so many and it is clearly a Jeep problem, I have not had to pay for the repair...yet.
#109 of 178 Re: The concept was good but.............. [i_am]
Aug 05, 2011 (6:07 am)
After reading your litany of issues with your CRD, I was pretty lucky with my CRD until it hit 77,594 miles, when without warning the engine simply blew up. I am still battling with Chrysler and the crap dealer in Melbourne, Florida.
Now the real interesting thing or two that I have learned is that whenever a dealer has one of these engines, other dealers are clamoring to buy it from them. Why? In one case of an oil consumption issue, the liners in two of the cylinders were out of round, yet the engine had never over heated and had been properly care for.
Chrysler, under FIAT's guidance intends to use engines from this same company, V.M. Motori, in their cars and in some domestic offerings. I would be real leery about buying one of these.
#110 of 178 I Love my 06 Jeep Liberty CRD
Aug 05, 2011 (6:18 am)
I really love my CRD. I've only had it for 2 years but it now has 237,000 km on it. I did have that hose crack that folks talk about, loss of power etc. And I also recently had to replace the turbo. That was an expensive fix but I got the turbo in the US and my husband installed so were were only out $1100. Other than that I have had no problems. I pull my horse trailer with it and my camping trailer. It has to work with the camping trailer and I really take it easy when pulling that. Probably should get a bigger transmission cooler.
p.s. does anyone know how to check the codes on the 06? I've tried the on of ignition thing and it doesn't seem to work. Engine light has been on since hubby changed the turbo and changing gears at the wrong time at lower speeds. I figure he has knocked off a wire or something.
#111 of 178 Re: I Love my 06 Jeep Liberty CRD [sherileed]
Aug 05, 2011 (7:31 am)
In the US, many auto parts stores will check your codes for free, just ask them.
Other wise you can buy your own tester for under $100.
It can read your codes and reste the check engine light.
Another trick that May work is to disconnect your battery for at least 10 minutes (I do it for overnight) and it should reset the computer to the Factory settings.
#112 of 178 Re: Who is Happy with their CRD? [fairch]
Aug 05, 2011 (11:43 am)
Love it so much I'm picking up a second one tonight. One of the best mechanics in the country works in my city. The window problem that you hear about is NOT about heat. It is Jeep's lousy parts. There is a current glow plug issue going from ceramic to metallic plugs. It also requires a new control sensor for them. Ugh! I just live with the check engine light and use a OBDII code reader to make sure nothing else is not working. Once I found my mechanic the thing runs like a champ. 10 months and still going. Husband trading in Volvo for his own Jeep Liberty.