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Re: Running board problems 03 Navigator [kgatti]
by akirby
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Feb 08, 2008 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: kgatti (Feb 08, 2008 3:03 pm)
No car mfr is going to fix something like that at 90,000 miles. They have to draw the line somewhere.
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Re: Running board problems 03 Navigator [akirby]
by stiritup
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Feb 09, 2008 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Feb 08, 2008 7:50 pm)
Yes but what if you can demonstrate that other vehicles with less miles have exactly the same issue. Mine began doing this at 5900, now I am at 7200. If the mfr pretended not to know an issue exists then they should be on the hook for the repairs.
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Re: Running board problems 03 Navigator [stiritup]
by jeyhoe
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Feb 10, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: stiritup (Feb 09, 2008 5:59 pm)
The power running boards are the only option I did NOT get when I ordered my '04 Navigator. The reason was that they were having trouble with the power running boards in the 2003s and I saw no reason to get involved in that.
They know there's an issue. It's always been an issue. However, 90,000 miles is a long time later to expect them to fix anything.
I also have a Lincoln LS and while a great car, there's a design problem with the front sway bar causing it to wear out bushings far too quickly. Ford has redesigned the sway bar but refuses to replace the badly designed ones. It would cost me nearly $1000 to have the properly designed sway bar put on. I dont like that anymore than u like what's happening with your PRBs. But that's the story. I dont know if other mfgs would treat things any differently.
Good luck.
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Re: 2003 power running boards [beav626]
by bobbycar
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Feb 12, 2008 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: beav626 (Jun 27, 2007 2:14 pm)
2004 ultimate. driver side - only - would sometimes come out, sometimes not. i tried opening just the back door & it would come out - sometimes. passenger side worked find. the problem was the control module, replaced under the extended warranty. to date, owned truck 4 months, 15 days in dealership,  estimated $7-8k repairs under extended lincoln warranty,  $200 out of pocket. 
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Re: Running board problems 03 Navigator [akirby]
by kgatti
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Feb 14, 2008 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Feb 08, 2008 7:50 pm)
My argument with Ford is that I reported these problems every time I took my car in for service, beginning over 2 years ago when my car was still under warranty and the miles were obviously much lower. Every time I was told that the problem was the motor, or that they greased it up and it was working fine. It would work okay for about a month or two if I was lucky, but the problem was never FIXED. No one ever checked to see if the plastic covers were warped and getting caught, which would have keyed them into the problem with the rust. In fact, the warping is so subtle that it would be hard to notice, especially if mechanics are focusing on motor problems. Ford DID absorb the cost of the replacement running boards ($1300); my cost was the labor to install them. So I chalk that up to a victory on my end and an affirmation that Ford is aware that a problem exists. My vehicle is a 2003. Rust is a problem I would expect on a 15-year old car, not a 5 or 6 year old vehicle. The mileage has nothing to do with rust and body defects, so I disagree with you on Ford's responsibility to its customers. A $60,000 vehicle should hold up better than this.
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Re: Running board problems 03 Navigator [kgatti]
by akirby
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Feb 14, 2008 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: kgatti (Feb 14, 2008 5:50 am)
I understand your frustration but it seems most of the blame here goes to the dealer who misdiagnosed the problem. Unfortunately Ford doesn't repair vehicles - dealers do. And if the dealers weren't reporting the rusted running boards (because they didn't see them) then Ford would not have known there is a problem with them.
There is a specific rust warranty but I don't know if it's applicable in this case. I'm sure Ford would have preferred to fix the root cause instead of paying to replace all the motors.
As for the fact that it shouldn't happen - of course not. But it sounds like it was due to a design defect that trapped water and not due to poor materials. That could happen on a $12K Hyundai just as easily as a $200K Ferrari.
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Re: Running board problems 03 Navigator [kgatti]
by jlevin1
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Feb 29, 2008 (3:55 pm)
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Replying to: kgatti (Feb 07, 2008 10:48 am)
I am experiencing the same issue with my running boards on my '03 Navigator. I brought it to the dealership today and they said they would need to replace the motors as well. We have 75k miles on it. I would like to figure out how many other 03 owners are experiencing this issue so we can start to get Ford to own up to the issue. Based on this string, I also will be pursuing this with Ford. I'm not experiencing rust but I do have warped covers. We are in MN.
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Re: Running board problems 03 Navigator [jlevin1]
by stiritup
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Feb 29, 2008 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: jlevin1 (Feb 29, 2008 3:55 pm)
Yup, 03 here 69000 miles same issue.
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Re: Running board problems 03 Navigator [jlevin1]
by beav626
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Feb 29, 2008 (8:16 pm)
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Replying to: jlevin1 (Feb 29, 2008 3:55 pm)
I have the same problems......
I had my Driver side boards + motor replaced under warranty (69k miles)
diver side motor replaced but they did not do board.
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Re: Running board problems 03 Navigator [stiritup]
by jlevin1
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Mar 01, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: stiritup (Feb 29, 2008 5:05 pm)
have you had any issues with your cylinder heads? if not you may want to get this checked with your dealership, this also seems to be an issue with the 03. ask your dealership to pull service service paper TSB 06-5-13 its a $5000 problem you don't want to have...you might prevent this if you speak to your dealership about it.
Thank you for the info on you running boards, I hope others respond as I think there is a hidden issue that Ford/Lincoln is covering up... 
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