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Rumors by glideslopes
Jul 06, 2007 (4:56 pm)
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Some strong rumors on another site for Paddle Shifters for the AT. Not sure if a AT Si, or and EX upgrade with the 155hp K20 2.0.
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AT Si by kenlw
Jul 06, 2007 (6:44 pm)
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An AT Si would probably have sold me. I really thought they would do an AT before a sedan.
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Re: AT Si [kenlw] by thegraduate
Jul 06, 2007 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: kenlw (Jul 06, 2007 6:44 pm)

An Automatic Si seems VERY pointless to me. The Civic Si is about offering a very raw performance experience. With all its power made in the stratosphere, and relatively meager torque (compared with its competitors), where many cars redline, a manual seems a must-have option in this car in order to really wring it out properly.
 
Just my opinion, but its one that I believe would be shared by a lot of people (based on what I've read in other threads here).
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Re: AT Si [kenlw] by barretthead
Jul 07, 2007 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: kenlw (Jul 06, 2007 6:44 pm)

nope.
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well.... by kenlw
Jul 07, 2007 (6:25 pm)
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most would have said the same about a 4 dr Si. And it may not appeal to you but would increase sales. At least one that I'm aware of....
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Re: well.... [kenlw] by thegraduate
Jul 07, 2007 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: kenlw (Jul 07, 2007 6:25 pm)

Having two extra doors doesn't change the performance characteristics of the engine. Having a performance-robbing torque-converter does.
 
The engine's peaky nature simply wouldn't mesh well with an automatic.
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Re: well.... [thegraduate] by kork13
Jul 08, 2007 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 07, 2007 7:50 pm)

I completely agree with the others... An AT Si would rob it of all the fun. Just last night, I decided to stretch my Si's legs a bit, and brought it up to 6k+ rpms a few times, just for kicks... That's one of the funnest parts about the Si, and the upper-reaches is where the engine gets the best power. According to dyno results posted in another forum, between 6.2k - 7.8k rpms is the sweet spot, and an AT would never let you get up there. No, an AT Si would never do.....
 
As for changes I'd like to see, the only thing I'd like to see (at least on the Si side) would be a more torquing engine, but that sort of improvement is probably a few years off, at least not until the next gen comes out.
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Re: auto odd headlight [kenlw] by kork13
Jul 08, 2007 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: kenlw (Jul 02, 2007 4:53 pm)

About the auto-off headlights, yea, it'd probably be nice. However, I wouldn't get rid of the dingy noise... That little ring helps me remember to get the keys out and turn the lights out ALL THE TIME. Yea, it's a little sad that I always forget, but it is still very useful for me.
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Wait 'Til 2009... by scottimusprime
Jul 09, 2007 (10:32 am)
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I don't expect many significant changes to the Civic for 2008. A few extra features are rumored (possibility of leather as an option) but I don't think it will be anything earth-shattering.
 
I think the biggest changes will be saved for the MMC for the 2009 model year. Honestly, I hope the MMC will bring dramatic changes, including a new interior. As a current owner of an '06 Accord, I love the quality and the layout of my Accord's interior. I despise nearly everything about the current Civic's. I am sure Honda won't go to the trouble of re-designing the interior (some people like it) but it's the interior that kept me from buying one.
 
As far as the exterior goes, I think the Civic coupe looks awesome just the way it is. I wouldn't want them to make dramatic changes (probably new bumpers, maybe LED taillights?). The sedan needs a little more work I think... new bumpers, new taillights, new grille. I wonder if the 2008 Accord styling will rub off on the Civic?
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Re: well.... [thegraduate] by eldaino
Jul 09, 2007 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 07, 2007 7:50 pm)

exactly, everone who complained of an si sedan was an idiot, especially considering it started as a HATCH and not a coupe at all. and can anyone say acura integra gsr? one of the coolest performance honda 4 doors ever.
 
an a/t simply wouldn't work. make the si's engine at least 2.2 or 2.3 litres making the same power to displacement ratio and then we would be fine. but honda would SOO make us pay for that. a gti for example does fine with the dsg, it has a ton of tq. the si requires a manual; its not about tradition but just the nature of the engine.
 
any 2.0 with paddle shifters would be great; a sort of competitor for the base se-r and mazda 3 2.3. this is basically available on the csx in canada, and on the uplevl civic in japan. its the engine from the old si/ base rsx. i think it would be great; but honda already made the mistake of putting the si moniker on a car with that engine; it wont happen again.

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