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Re: Handling in Snow [camble94] by nsteevo
Dec 04, 2008 (10:08 pm)
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Replying to: camble94 (Dec 04, 2008 4:47 pm)

I have an 07. I spent the entire last winter in Florida and can tell you that the car hydroplanes like nothing I've ever seen when it rains. Florida has downpours but I would seriously feel the car moving sideways on the freeway. (scariest feeling I think I've ever had while driving) Now I am in Wisconsin and we've had a few good snows this winter so far and now the roads are icy and snowpacked slippery. In snow the car seems fine. I have not tried to go through deep snow yet but as far as slippery frozen roads, it has been fine.
I think part of the reason for the great gas mileage is the fact that the car is so light..........light cars, however, do not do well in snow when they have wide, low profile tires.
If you look back into earlier entries on this blog there was discussion about the Civic in snow and tires were a factor. There was even a recommendation as to a replacement tire that works great in snow on the Civic.
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Re: Handling in Snow [nsteevo] by thegraduate
Dec 04, 2008 (10:16 pm)
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Replying to: nsteevo (Dec 04, 2008 10:08 pm)

I spent the entire last winter in Florida and can tell you that the car hydroplanes like nothing I've ever seen when it rains
 
Isn't that a product of the tires, not the car?
 
Also, you referenced how light the car is; I'd like to point out that it weighs about as much as my '96 Accord, thanks to extra airbags, safety systems, and overall size compared to previous Civics . Amazing how cars grow, isn't it?
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Re: Handling in Snow [thegraduate] by dantz
Dec 05, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 04, 2008 10:16 pm)

"I spent the entire last winter in Florida and can tell you that the car hydroplanes like nothing I've ever seen when it rains"
  
"Isn't that a product of the tires, not the car?"

 
It's mostly a combination of the tires and the driver. Here's a short list of things that will increase the likelihood of hydroplaning:
 
1) Underinflated tires. This allows the center of the tire to run slightly concave, and this entraps a small pocket of water which prevents a significant portion of the tread from contacting the road.
 
2) Worn tires, of course. That's what the grooves are for.
 
3) Excessive speed through standing water, especially if the road is not grooved. (And doing this while traveling downhill will make the situation much worse if you do end up hydroplaning.)
 
4) It's true that wider tires will hydroplane sooner than narrow tires, and the Civic tires are definitely a bit on the wide side.
 
I haven't noticed any hydroplaning tendencies in my 2008 Civic LX Sedan, but maybe that's because I tend to play it safe in the rain. About 30 years ago I had a major hydroplaning incident in a VW Beetle and it scared the living cr*p out of me, so now when it rains heavily I slow down, especially if there's any standing water on the road.
 
During a full hydroplane there is a complete loss of control. The car becomes completely unresponsive to steering and brake inputs and goes wherever it wants, generally at high speed. When it happened to me I almost ran smack into a rock wall on the side of the highway, but luckily there was a grassy strip fronting the wall that allowed two of my tires to get some much-needed traction so I could turn away.
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warm up engine in the winter ??? by cuyseco
Dec 06, 2008 (9:43 am)
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I have a Civic LX sedan AT 08 and I wonder if I need to warm up the engine every morning in the winter. I live in Texas and sometimes we have 32 F in the mornings.
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Re: warm up engine in the winter ??? [cuyseco] by thegraduate
Dec 06, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: cuyseco (Dec 06, 2008 9:43 am)

The best warm-up is to gently drive the car until it reaches normal operating temps. I have two Honda 4-cylinder sedans, and typically give no more than 10 seconds warm-up before I hit the road. I just try and keep revs in the 2,000-3,000 RPM range until the car is fully warmed-up.
 
I live in AL, and we've already had some mornings in the upper teens and low 20s. I crank the car, then put on my seatbelt, find Rick and Bubba on the radio, lock my doors, and go... in that order. Gives the car a sec or two to get the oil moving.
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08 EX with concerns. Dealer not helpful. by hickoryc
Dec 11, 2008 (11:01 am)
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New May 28. Wife's car. A tire started losing air. Brought it to Sears Auto Center, a Bridgestone dealer. Cause undetermined. Applied rim seal and reversed tire on rim. No help. Brought it to Bridgestone Tire dealer who submerged tire with rim. Bubbles appeared on rim interior, right about in the middle. Spot on rim appeared to have a crack. Tire dealer put red circle around area and red arrow on tire pointing to the source of the air leak. Brought car to selling dealer, Premier Honda New Orleans. Explained that car had defective alloy wheel and all details. Also first oil change and rotation. Called that car was ready. Servicewriter stated it was a tire problem. She also quickly stated they could not duplicate the other 3 issues. Emailed dealership yesterday and did get a very prompt response that they would take another look at it but no apologies for their initial ignorant stance.
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Defective Rim by sandman46
Dec 11, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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Good luck getting this replaced gratis from Honda. Mazda wouldn't replace our damaged rim three months after purchase as they blamed it on us and not on the rim. Was pretty pissed but had to replace the alloy. Will be interested to see how honda handles your situation.
Good luck!
 
The Sandman
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Re: Handling in Snow [camble94] by summer24
Dec 28, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: camble94 (Dec 04, 2008 4:47 pm)

I'm also having trouble with my Honda Civic 2007 handling in snow. If there is any ice or slick roads the back end goes back and forth. Even at 25 mph. My car has 40,000 miles on it. I have had to replace the tires and have upgraded but it still does it. I was told by the dealership said it is with the new design. And that the car is light that is why it does it. Told me to buy snow tires. I just bought radials snow/ice tires.
I believe there is something wrong with the car. I need something safe living in WI. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
Summer24
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Re: Handling in Snow [summer24] by wai
Dec 28, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: summer24 (Dec 28, 2008 12:06 pm)

What brand and model of tire do you used as replacement?
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Re: Handling in Snow [summer24] by nsteevo
Jan 01, 2009 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: summer24 (Dec 28, 2008 12:06 pm)

I used my 2007 Civic to drive to Seymour yesterday........the roads had some slick spots on them. I was going about 40mph and it did exactly what you said yours did.
I had zero control over that car and then I slowed to about 30mph and it was the same thing. Every time I hit some slippery roadway the car (front and back) would move from side to side like the wind was blowing it and it was going to fishtail and then go in circles. I was scared to death. The same thing happened to me last summer in Florida when it rained hard. I love the car and don't want to part with it but if it means being safe and not scared to drive it then i will have to trade it in I guess. I thought the new tired would help.
I have a friend who owned a 2008 Civic and he just traded it a few weeks ago for a Jetta wagon. What a great little car with lots of room. It does'nt slide all over when it snows. I am going to test drive one and then buy it.

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