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#31 of 345 Re: w.e. [kork13] by drmbb Jul 25, 2007 (6:10 am)
Replying to: kork13 (Jul 24, 2007 11:12 pm) I drove stick in all my cars for the past 25 years, and I agree with a lot of the points about the advantages of manual trans cars. However, driving stick in heavy stop-n-go traffic is just a PITA. After my last drive down I95 from CT to VA, a trip that should not take nearly 15 hours if traffic WAS MOVING, I decided I just couldn't take having a clutch in my daily drive automobile. So, a couple of months later, I traded in and drove out with my 2007EX/AT, and it is sooo nice when the traffic clogs up at a toll booth, accident delay, construction delay, or just too many dang cars all on the same road.   On an open, winding road though, a 5 or 6 speed manual is more fun, although not as much more fun as it was 20 years ago (you drive over half a million miles, and the thrill level drops a fair bit, I guess - although I still enjoy driving).
#32 of 345 Re: geesh..... [kenlw] by eldaino Jul 25, 2007 (1:40 pm)
Replying to: kenlw (Jul 24, 2007 12:08 pm) i'm 22 and unless the si was a weekend car, i have no intention of getting a stick anytime soon.   if i had the money for a gti right now guess what transmission i'd choose? the dsg.   i don't really have a teenlust for slapping stick at all; and guys this isn't a 'the benefits of a manual' and 'i'm oldschool/a purist so i drive stick' type of argument: honda knows that the high revving k20 simply does not suit an automatic.   if they stuck the k24 from the tsx with its 210hp and 160+lbs of torque, ok we are good now. but k20a with auto=no.
#34 of 345 Re: AT Si [thegraduate] by orbit9090 Jul 30, 2007 (1:03 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 23, 2007 5:15 pm) ...the Civic Si with an Automatic would seem like a car with the worst turbo lag you could possibly imagine. The Si simply deserves a manual...There's not enough torque to make the Si a quick car with an automatic.   Nonsense. - It would be quicker than the EX. Reason enough. - The Honda Civic Si doesn't use a turbocharger. - The automatic should be an OPTION, not standard. Replies to this message: jet10000 (Jul 30, 2007 1:32 pm) thegraduate (Jul 30, 2007 2:07 pm) eldaino (Aug 01, 2007 10:24 am)
#35 of 345 Re: AT Si [orbit9090] by jet10000 Jul 30, 2007 (1:32 pm)
Replying to: orbit9090 (Jul 30, 2007 1:03 pm) Nonsense. - It would be quicker than the EX. Reason enough.   You don't understand. It wouldn't be quicker. To get the speed from this engine you have to get the RPM's higher than an AT would permit.   The torque at the low end (which is what you'd get from the AT) is not high enough to give you any additional speed over the EX.   See post #16 for more information.
#36 of 345 Re: AT Si [orbit9090] by thegraduate Jul 30, 2007 (2:07 pm)
Replying to: orbit9090 (Jul 30, 2007 1:03 pm) I didn't say it had a turbocharger. I said it would seem like it had TURBO LAG. In a car with turbo lag, you have meager intial power, followed by a rather un-graceful surge in power later on in the powerband.   An automatic would be a detriment to the "Si" badge. Much like the disgraceful 3.8L Impala SS with the Supercharged V6. The "SS" badging is symbolic of a muscle car (something the GM 3.8L is not). In the same way, the Si represents a very pure sports car experience (light, loud, and racy). And automatic would go against the Si moniker's purpose, cheapening its worth.
#37 of 345 Leather by jet10000 Jul 31, 2007 (9:27 am)
I found this on one of the vtec.net forums.   Someone with access to the Vehicle Locator on the Honda Interactive Network confirmed the Civic trim levels with leather for 2008.     The Vehicle Locator screen on the Honda Interactive Network shows an EX-L model.   Interestingly enough, you can get Navi with cloth or Leather.   FA1598JNW - Civic 4DR EXL 5MT FA1598KNW - Civic 4DR EXL NAVI 5MT FA1698JNW - Civic 4DR EXL 5AT FA1698KNW - Civic 4DR EXL NAVI 5AT FG1198JNW - Civic 2DR EXL 5MT FG1198KNW - Civic 2DR EXL NAVI 5MT FG1298JNW - Civic 2DR EXL 5AT FG1298KNW - Civic 2DR EXL NAVI 5AT   http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-message?message_id=684412&page_number=1
#38 of 345 2008 Honda Civic MUGEN Si Sedan Set for Fall Release by jet10000 Jul 31, 2007 (9:31 am)
Here's the press release with pictures   http://www.collegehillshonda.com/artman2/publish/Civic_7/2008_Honda_Civic_MUGEN_- Si_Sedan_Set_for_Fall_Release.shtml Replies to this message: eldaino (Aug 01, 2007 10:30 am)
#39 of 345 Re: AT Si [orbit9090] by eldaino Aug 01, 2007 (10:24 am)
Replying to: orbit9090 (Jul 30, 2007 1:03 pm) how can you enjoy a stratospheric redline with an automatic transmission?   an auto tranny is built to keep you in the optimal powerband.   do you WANT to NEVER be below 6k?   i agree with grad....very little initial get up and go, especially since the k20 in this civic is NOT tuned for midragne torque at all.   it goes against everything 'si'.
#40 of 345 Re: 2008 Honda Civic MUGEN Si Sedan Set for Fall Release [jet10000] by eldaino Aug 01, 2007 (10:30 am)
Replying to: jet10000 (Jul 31, 2007 9:31 am) i'm actually a bit unimpressed...just a shifter and a badge on the inside? why not some more aggresive seats and more mugen specific stuff?   and the suspension, while probably great, is just limited to firmer springs and shocks? and an exhaust that adds a couple horsies?   this is def for the jdm whore...except that being built in america, its NOT jdm!   mugen's stuff is really nice looking, but its not exactly worth the price paid.   look at all the other 30k compacts based on econo boxes: the sti, the evo, the R32 they have something extra to back up the price! not just an aftermarket suplier who makes just as good as stock components that look cooler. (this is cool in itself, and the mugen si is a VERY good looking car, but not worth 30. maybe like 25k.)   i was expecting more. it'll be great in a decade...but unfortuantely, its resale wont be as good as say, and r32, if peopole don't lap it up. i think thats why there is only 1k being made, to ensure they all go.   again, if you handed me one for free, or if i was in the market for an si and they had one only slightly more than a regular si sedan, i'd take it.   otherwise, if i had 30k to spend, its an r32 for me.

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