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Toyota Yaris Body Repair Questions

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Re: Yaris Frame Damage [tuzo] by backy
Mar 11, 2008 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: tuzo (Mar 11, 2008 2:33 pm)

There is no "frame" per se as it is a unibody car--like almost every other vehicle sold today except for trucks and large SUVs. If the car is in a collision and sustains damage to the unibody, it is sometimes possible to repair the damage and there are machines designed for this purpose. I don't see how the "entire frame" could be replaced without replacing the car, pretty much.
 
As with any car, it can happen that a collision can total the car, because the cost of repair is more than the salvage value of the car (usually around 70% of its current value). Because the Yaris is inexpensive for a new car, it might be easier to total it than a more expensive car, just because repair costs can be high these days even for a minor collision. (And if the airbags go off, that adds $$$$ to the repair cost.) But this is not just for the Yaris, and should not keep you from buying one.
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Re: Yaris Frame Damage [tuzo] by ttai
Mar 12, 2008 (3:03 am)
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Replying to: tuzo (Mar 11, 2008 2:33 pm)

A coworker with a Yaris Hatchback was rear ended by a truck going 30 mph. The truck pushed him into the car in front of him. The yaris only sustained front and rear bumper damage. The body held so well, he said they only replaced the bumpers and the Yaris drives just fine. No squeaks or rattles. If you bought a Korean make, you won't do so well.
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Re: Yaris Frame Damage [ttai] by backy
Mar 12, 2008 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: ttai (Mar 12, 2008 3:03 am)

I'm sorry, after seeing videos such as the NHTSA and IIHS crash tests, some of which are conducted at about 35 mph, and also the huge amount of damage that is caused by even low-speed rear-end collisions on much bigger, heavier vehicles, I am extremely skeptical that a Yaris, when hit by a truck going 30 mph, would sustain damage only to the bumper in the rear. Even ignoring the physics involved, it's likely the truck would override the Yaris' rear bumper.
 
Take a look at iihs.org, at the photos and videos of their low-speed rear end crash tests, and see how much damage is caused. Here is an example, of rear-end tests done on mid-sized cars at just 6 mph:
 
http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr030107.html
 
An excerpt:
 
Results were similar in the rear tests. Reducing the damage required the bumpers to engage the barrier and absorb the energy of the impact, but this mostly didn't happen. A relatively good performer in the full-rear test was the Hyundai Sonata. Its bumper did engage the barrier, and most of the damage was limited to the bumper (minor repair of the rear body panel also was required). Total damage came to $739.
 
Good bumper performance requires not only engagement with the test barrier but also strength sufficient to absorb the energy of a low-speed crash. Hyundai engineers strengthened the Sonata's bumper after learning about the Institute's upcoming series of new tests.
 
In contrast to the Sonata, the bumpers on other cars did slide under the barrier, and damage was much worse. The Chrysler Sebring, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Jetta, and AURA sustained more than $3,000 damage apiece in the full-rear test.

 
Keep in mind, these tests were done at 6 mph--nowhere close to 30 mph.
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Re: Yaris Frame Damage [backy] by ttai
Mar 12, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 12, 2008 8:44 am)

...and yet it happened. Go figure.
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Re: Yaris Frame Damage [ttai] by backy
Mar 12, 2008 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: ttai (Mar 12, 2008 3:26 pm)

Does your co-worker have any photos of this miraculous event? Something like that is certainly worth posting on the Web for all to see, if not front-page news in your local paper. I would also think Toyota would be very interested to pick up the story for use in their marketing. You can't buy that kind of testament to crash safety.
 
As for what happened or didn't happen... it's one of those things I'd have to have proof of, given that it flies in the face of so much other evidence about how small cars fare in crashes with trucks at 30 mph. I am wondering if, as sometimes happens with stories, some of the details get, um, exaggerated as it is told. You know, like 5 becomes 10, then 20, then 30? Or maybe the truck was going 30 mph before it hit the brakes?
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Re: Yaris Frame Damage [backy] by ttai
Mar 12, 2008 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 12, 2008 3:39 pm)

I'm sure his insurance took some pictures. But I'm not going to bother. I'll let you enjoy your hyundai while in the back of your mind you're thinking you're driving a death trap. harrharrr . Yaris rules.
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Re: Yaris Frame Damage [ttai] by backy
Mar 12, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: ttai (Mar 12, 2008 4:41 pm)

Hardly. My little car was hit broadside by a semi going at 72 mph a few months ago. Not only did I walk away without a scratch, the car sustained only a few nicks on the plastic side molding. The side airbag inflated, but--and I could hardly believe this--it retracted and recharged all by itself, all ready to go again. So the repair costs on the car were less than $100 (new molding). Yes, quite a car. Nearly as impressive as your co-worker's Yaris, wouldn't you say?
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scratch and dent removal by jollyreaper
Mar 08, 2007 (5:41 am)
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I'm annoyed. Had to park my Yaris at a crowded costco and some megatard in an SUV smashed the front right quarter with their door. It isn't just a scratch like someone opened it carefully, it's a proper dent. Ugh! Also have some other miscellaneous scratches. Is there any recommended way of taking care of this? It's such a young car, I hate for it to show age early.

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