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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [moparbad] by aspesisteve
Jun 10, 2008 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 09, 2008 6:56 pm)

dielsel is NOT 9% more than gas where I live. It is 25% more.
 
I live in California and my calculator works just fine.
 
Diesel is dirty - not as dirty as it used to be, but I wouldn't want to be out for a run in a city that predomenantly uses diesel.
 
I think you are basing your info on the past. A hybrid truck makes alot more sense going forward with gas prices approaching $5.00 per gallon in California. GM has a nice hybrid truck system that gets the Suburban 21 mpg city. Of course they can't make it cheap enough for the masses. Give the Japanese a chance and they'll do it imo.
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [aspesisteve] by wwest
Jun 10, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 10, 2008 7:48 am)

Yes diesel costs more because on a unit-volume basis it contains more energy, substantially more, to be used to produce HP than does the same unit-volume of gasoline.
 
"A hybrid truck makes a low more sense.."
 
Especially if it could be fuelled with CNG setting at home in the garage at night.
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [rsholland] by wwest
Jun 10, 2008 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 09, 2008 12:05 pm)

"4-cylinder diesel?" "if the engine were large enough"
 
I suspect you mean "powerful" enough, and that no longer means, correlates, with LARGE. Moreso as we move into the future, CLOSE future if fuel costs continue to rise.
 
A small engine that uses the Atkinson cycle during cruise, low throttle openings, and then converts to Miller Cycle via Supercharging with wider and wider throttle openings.
 
Atkinson Cycle cylinder compression ratios upwards of 13:1 (10:1 "net") during light engine loading, "cruising", and then going progressively to 8:1 (10:1 "net") as boost comes on line to "pre-compress" the intake charge.
 
An intake valve camshaft with a variable level of "hesitation" for/at each intake valve high point opening would do the trick.
 
Atkinson/Miller/West cycle engine...??
 
That same intake camshaft technique would certainly solve the Acura RDX's poor FE problem during cruise.
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [moparbad] by aspesisteve
Jun 10, 2008 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 09, 2008 6:56 pm)

morparbad,
 
diesel has been over $5.00 per gallon all over the state of California since memorial day - it's now close to $5.50 at a station near my home.
 
All this talk about low end tork and more power on the Ridgeline - i don't get it.
Are people having trouble hauling stuff with the Ridgeline? I mean is anyone planning on pulling a horse trailer with a Ridgeline?
 
I say let Ford, Chevy and even toyota have at it with the big powerful truck market - GM just announced they are shutting down 4 North American Truck Plants because they just aren't selling trucks like they used to. The Tundra kept getting bigger and bigger and now has just aweful timing for fairly new model.
 
For Honda, I say keep it clean and lean - give me a hybrid Ridgeline.
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not $5.00 by moparbad
Jun 10, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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steve, for the record, the diesel and gasoline prices I quoted are at Flying J in CA and there was not one Flying J in all of CA that had diesel at $5.00 or more.
The prices are posted online and offer an accurate reference of gasoline and diesel price throughout the US that can be verified by anyone with an internet connection.
 
Quoting $5.50 may be reality if you chose to buy diesel at the station near your house, it also may be sensationalistic and I doubt most people decide to buy the most expensive fuel they can find. During my drive to work today there were gas prices for regular from $3.98 to $4.46, I would not choose to buy the $4.46.
  
Diesel in CA $4.89 g
Regular Gasoline in CA $4.49

 
As to a diesel Ridgeline, Honda has stated that diesel was a better power source than hybrid for larger vehicles and hybrid was better power source for smaller vehicles, so I expect a diesel is more likely from Honda for Ridgeline.
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Re: not $5.00 [moparbad] by aspesisteve
Jun 17, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 10, 2008 2:09 pm)

When I drove to Yosemite for memorial day RUG was around $4.20 per gallon. Everystation I saw on the way up had diesel at $4.99.
 
If you use the hybrid system that GM offers on the suburban, then the Ridgeline could benefit. But then again, the Toyota Hylander benefits from a more conventional hybrid system.
 
The Ridgeline is a cross truck that is used for passenger hauling and light hauling. I say light hauling because the tow rating isn't very high and the bed is small compared to most "trucks". I say leave the diesel powered truck to the F350 - the big trucks that really need all that low end torque. For me, and I'm guessing the majority of Ridgeline owners/prospective buyers, they would favor fuel economy over low end torque.
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Cross Truck [aspesisteve] by moparbad
Jun 18, 2008 (3:16 am)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 17, 2008 10:40 am)

The Ridgeline is a cross truck that is used for passenger hauling and light hauling.
 
What is a "cross truck"?
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Re: Cross Truck [moparbad] by aspesisteve
Jun 18, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 18, 2008 3:16 am)

it's designed to do more (or less depending on how you look at it) than just a truck.
 
It's trying to fill a niche between the truck and the SUV market.
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2009 Honda Ridgeline Spy Photos-real! by sparkland
Jun 23, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Here are some photos of the new 2009 Ridgeline. Some of the changes include a "Pilot" type grill, daytime running lamps, fog lights, integrated trailer hitch, rear back-up camera, redesigned wheels.
 
http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plugins/iimage-gallery.php?idpost=7802&id- g=1&idi=3
 
Hope you enjoy, Brad
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Re: 2009 Honda Ridgeline Spy Photos-real! [sparkland] by aspesisteve
Jun 23, 2008 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: sparkland (Jun 23, 2008 9:11 am)

doesn't look like much of a change
purely cosmetic
the lines on the truck seem to be the same
 
Is the '09 supposed to be a remodel year for the Ridgeline?

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