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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 09, 2008 5:20 am) No, not really. According to Honda the 4 cylinder diesel comes first along with the vehicles to be so equipped. The 4 cylinder might be so successful, QUICKLY successful, along with the fact that the buyers, "boy-racers", the HP/torque NUTS, and the 0-60 crowd growing older and more mature every day, while feeling the "PAIN" of empty pockets that Honda suspends the 6 cylinder diesel developement. And I put the need for carrying a 4X8 sheet of plywood right in there along with the earlier categories. One time rental of a PU is a much better solution vs long term ownership of a vehicle HUGE enough for the rare occassions that most of use, have need to haul 4X8 sheets of plywood. No, the old purchase "standards" will now disappear, thankfully. Have you noticed that you can BUY a single axle trailer for those ODD jobs for as little as $500...?? My '93 Ranger is scheduled to go away, along with the insurance costs, for that very reason, $500 utilty trailer.
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Replying to: wwest (Jun 09, 2008 11:01 am)  We're talking about different things here. You're coming at it from a Harry Homeowner standpoint, which is fine—and I have no argument with that. What I'm saying 4x8 capability is still very important to those who earn a living with pickups. A properly designed mid-size pickup (wider!) can fill the needs of many who have been traditional 1/2-ton buyers. Also, not all contractors buy HD 3/4-ton trucks. Again I say Honda is in the best position of any truckmaker to exploit this market, and I hope they do. The Ridgeline already is already wide enough and can match the payloads of many full-size 1/2-tons. What it needs are more model configurations, one being a regular cab with an 8' bed. Finally, Honda has stated a number of times that a V6 diesel is in the works for their larger vehicles, the Ridgeline being one of them. I'm not making this up. It's a matter of record. Would they also offer a 4-cylinder diesel? I guess it's always possible, if the engine were large enough. My guess is it would have to be in the 2.5 – 3.0 range, which is pretty big for a 4-banger. Toyota and Nissan offer 2.5+ diesels in other markets, so it's certainly possible. Bob |
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 09, 2008 12:05 pm) I want a hybrid Ridgeline. Put the hybrid system where the built in tool box is and I'm on board. Give me a Hybrid Ridgeline that can get something in the high 20's; that's what I want.
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 09, 2008 4:53 pm) http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/84 http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2100 The general feeling in the automotive community seems to be that for larger vehicles, diesels make more sense. Honda certainly seems to feel this way, as do the German automakers. Bob |
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 09, 2008 4:53 pm) Regular Gasoline in CA $4.49 For those that are good at math or can use a calculator diesel is approximately 9% more than gasoline. Diesel engines deliver 25% or greater efficiency than comparable gasoline engine. Still asking why diesel? A Toyota Tacoma (Hilux) sold in the UK equipped with diesel engine is rated at 36.6 mpg highway, and that is after the Imperial to US unit conversion.
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Apr 28, 2008 7:21 am) |
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 09, 2008 6:56 pm) I live in California and my calculator works just fine. Diesel is dirty - not as dirty as it used to be, but I wouldn't want to be out for a run in a city that predomenantly uses diesel. I think you are basing your info on the past. A hybrid truck makes alot more sense going forward with gas prices approaching $5.00 per gallon in California. GM has a nice hybrid truck system that gets the Suburban 21 mpg city. Of course they can't make it cheap enough for the masses. Give the Japanese a chance and they'll do it imo.
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 10, 2008 7:48 am) "A hybrid truck makes a low more sense.." Especially if it could be fuelled with CNG setting at home in the garage at night. |
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 09, 2008 12:05 pm) I suspect you mean "powerful" enough, and that no longer means, correlates, with LARGE. Moreso as we move into the future, CLOSE future if fuel costs continue to rise. A small engine that uses the Atkinson cycle during cruise, low throttle openings, and then converts to Miller Cycle via Supercharging with wider and wider throttle openings. Atkinson Cycle cylinder compression ratios upwards of 13:1 (10:1 "net") during light engine loading, "cruising", and then going progressively to 8:1 (10:1 "net") as boost comes on line to "pre-compress" the intake charge. An intake valve camshaft with a variable level of "hesitation" for/at each intake valve high point opening would do the trick. Atkinson/Miller/West cycle engine...?? That same intake camshaft technique would certainly solve the Acura RDX's poor FE problem during cruise. |
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 09, 2008 6:56 pm) diesel has been over $5.00 per gallon all over the state of California since memorial day - it's now close to $5.50 at a station near my home. All this talk about low end tork and more power on the Ridgeline - i don't get it. Are people having trouble hauling stuff with the Ridgeline? I mean is anyone planning on pulling a horse trailer with a Ridgeline? I say let Ford, Chevy and even toyota have at it with the big powerful truck market - GM just announced they are shutting down 4 North American Truck Plants because they just aren't selling trucks like they used to. The Tundra kept getting bigger and bigger and now has just aweful timing for fairly new model. For Honda, I say keep it clean and lean - give me a hybrid Ridgeline. |
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