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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [wwest] by rsholland
Jun 07, 2008 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Jun 07, 2008 10:08 am)

Yes, I think that "engineering" might well consist of simply substituting a 4 cylinder diesel instead of a 6 cylinder.
 
Don't bet on it.
 
Bob
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [rsholland] by wwest
Jun 08, 2008 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 07, 2008 7:12 pm)

Why not, Diesel is likely to hit $10.00 within a few years, and if it doesn't then our government should tax it enough to make it so.
 
Maybe my dream, a Ford Ranger "sized" Ridgeline with Miller cycle smallish I4 using a lightweight/low inertia carbon fiber positive displacement engine belt driven variable speed SuperCharger will happen after all.
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [wwest] by rsholland
Jun 09, 2008 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jun 08, 2008 5:56 pm)

Why not? Because everything that's been published on a future Ridgeline diesel is counter to what you're suggesting.
 
Sure, I suppose a 4-cylinder diesel is possible, but it's highly unlikely. I also don't expect a smaller Gen-2 Ridgeline as you mentioned. I could see Honda offering another smaller pickup model, maybe something based off the Element (beefed up considerably), but not a smaller Ridgeline; and that certainly could have a 4-cylinder diesel.
 
If anything, I would hope to see more body styles offered on the next generation Ridgeline, one being a regular cab model with an 8' bed. With fuel prices the way they are there's a HUGE opportunity for the smaller mid-size trucks to become to become the "next 1/2-tons," and Honda is in a perfect position to cash in on this.
 
The need for a work-friendly truck will not disappear with high fuel prices. The Ridgeline, unlike any other mid-size truck, is already wide enough to handle 4' wide plywood flat on the bed floor. What's missing is a bed long enough to carry plywood with the tailgate closed. If Honda's smart they will offer something like that.
 
Bob
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [rsholland] by wwest
Jun 09, 2008 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 09, 2008 5:20 am)

".. counter to what you're suggesting..."
 
No, not really. According to Honda the 4 cylinder diesel comes first along with the vehicles to be so equipped. The 4 cylinder might be so successful, QUICKLY successful, along with the fact that the buyers, "boy-racers", the HP/torque NUTS, and the 0-60 crowd growing older and more mature every day, while feeling the "PAIN" of empty pockets that Honda suspends the 6 cylinder diesel developement.
 
And I put the need for carrying a 4X8 sheet of plywood right in there along with the earlier categories. One time rental of a PU is a much better solution vs long term ownership of a vehicle HUGE enough for the rare occassions that most of use, have need to haul 4X8 sheets of plywood.
 
No, the old purchase "standards" will now disappear, thankfully.
 
Have you noticed that you can BUY a single axle trailer for those ODD jobs for as little as $500...??
 
My '93 Ranger is scheduled to go away, along with the insurance costs, for that very reason, $500 utilty trailer.
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [wwest] by rsholland
Jun 09, 2008 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Jun 09, 2008 11:01 am)

I have a 5x8 single axle trailer, which I tow with my Forester. In fact I used it this morning.
 
We're talking about different things here. You're coming at it from a Harry Homeowner standpoint, which is fine—and I have no argument with that.
 
What I'm saying 4x8 capability is still very important to those who earn a living with pickups. A properly designed mid-size pickup (wider!) can fill the needs of many who have been traditional 1/2-ton buyers. Also, not all contractors buy HD 3/4-ton trucks. Again I say Honda is in the best position of any truckmaker to exploit this market, and I hope they do.
 
The Ridgeline already is already wide enough and can match the payloads of many full-size 1/2-tons. What it needs are more model configurations, one being a regular cab with an 8' bed.
 
Finally, Honda has stated a number of times that a V6 diesel is in the works for their larger vehicles, the Ridgeline being one of them. I'm not making this up. It's a matter of record.
 
Would they also offer a 4-cylinder diesel? I guess it's always possible, if the engine were large enough. My guess is it would have to be in the 2.5 – 3.0 range, which is pretty big for a 4-banger. Toyota and Nissan offer 2.5+ diesels in other markets, so it's certainly possible.
 
Bob
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [rsholland] by aspesisteve
Jun 09, 2008 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 09, 2008 12:05 pm)

what's the point of a diesel in todays world. Diesel in California is over $5.00 per gallon. It also happens to be dirtier than a gas equivolent Honda.
 
I want a hybrid Ridgeline. Put the hybrid system where the built in tool box is and I'm on board. Give me a Hybrid Ridgeline that can get something in the high 20's; that's what I want.
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [aspesisteve] by rsholland
Jun 09, 2008 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 09, 2008 4:53 pm)

Well, so far, in larger vehicles hybrids are not that great in terms of gas mileage. Edmunds had a long-term Lexus RX400h, and they were surprised it didn't get better mileage. Here are two links from their long-term blog:
 
http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/84
 
http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2100
 
The general feeling in the automotive community seems to be that for larger vehicles, diesels make more sense. Honda certainly seems to feel this way, as do the German automakers.
 
Bob
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [aspesisteve] by moparbad
Jun 09, 2008 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 09, 2008 4:53 pm)

Diesel in CA $4.89 g
Regular Gasoline in CA $4.49
 
For those that are good at math or can use a calculator diesel is approximately 9% more than gasoline.
 
Diesel engines deliver 25% or greater efficiency than comparable gasoline engine.
 
Still asking why diesel?
 
A Toyota Tacoma (Hilux) sold in the UK equipped with diesel engine is rated at 36.6 mpg highway, and that is after the Imperial to US unit conversion.
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [aspesisteve] by moparbad
Jun 09, 2008 (6:59 pm)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Apr 28, 2008 7:21 am)

It does not appear that you have much understanding or experience with current state of the art diesel engines in light duty trucks and cars. I hope you are able to have opportunities to experience them.
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Re: Turbo-diesel please. [moparbad] by aspesisteve
Jun 10, 2008 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 09, 2008 6:56 pm)

dielsel is NOT 9% more than gas where I live. It is 25% more.
 
I live in California and my calculator works just fine.
 
Diesel is dirty - not as dirty as it used to be, but I wouldn't want to be out for a run in a city that predomenantly uses diesel.
 
I think you are basing your info on the past. A hybrid truck makes alot more sense going forward with gas prices approaching $5.00 per gallon in California. GM has a nice hybrid truck system that gets the Suburban 21 mpg city. Of course they can't make it cheap enough for the masses. Give the Japanese a chance and they'll do it imo.

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