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90 messages, Last post on Sep 13, 2009 at 10:41 AM
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Replying to: wwest (Apr 18, 2008 9:09 am) Here are a few links stating that: http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061205/FREE/61204019/1024/c- - ara_submit http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/04/honda-may-outfit-ridgeline-and-others-with-v6- - -diesel/ http://www.leftlanenews.com/honda-to-make-diesel-v6-for-us-by-10.html As to the diesel having too much torque: I'm sure Honda will engineer it properly to handle the increased torque. Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 07, 2008 6:56 am) Yes, I think that "engineering" might well consist of simply substituting a 4 cylinder diesel instead of a 6 cylinder.
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Replying to: wwest (Jun 07, 2008 10:08 am) Don't bet on it. Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 07, 2008 7:12 pm) Maybe my dream, a Ford Ranger "sized" Ridgeline with Miller cycle smallish I4 using a lightweight/low inertia carbon fiber positive displacement engine belt driven variable speed SuperCharger will happen after all.
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Replying to: wwest (Jun 08, 2008 5:56 pm) Sure, I suppose a 4-cylinder diesel is possible, but it's highly unlikely. I also don't expect a smaller Gen-2 Ridgeline as you mentioned. I could see Honda offering another smaller pickup model, maybe something based off the Element (beefed up considerably), but not a smaller Ridgeline; and that certainly could have a 4-cylinder diesel. If anything, I would hope to see more body styles offered on the next generation Ridgeline, one being a regular cab model with an 8' bed. With fuel prices the way they are there's a HUGE opportunity for the smaller mid-size trucks to become to become the "next 1/2-tons," and Honda is in a perfect position to cash in on this. The need for a work-friendly truck will not disappear with high fuel prices. The Ridgeline, unlike any other mid-size truck, is already wide enough to handle 4' wide plywood flat on the bed floor. What's missing is a bed long enough to carry plywood with the tailgate closed. If Honda's smart they will offer something like that. Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 09, 2008 5:20 am) No, not really. According to Honda the 4 cylinder diesel comes first along with the vehicles to be so equipped. The 4 cylinder might be so successful, QUICKLY successful, along with the fact that the buyers, "boy-racers", the HP/torque NUTS, and the 0-60 crowd growing older and more mature every day, while feeling the "PAIN" of empty pockets that Honda suspends the 6 cylinder diesel developement. And I put the need for carrying a 4X8 sheet of plywood right in there along with the earlier categories. One time rental of a PU is a much better solution vs long term ownership of a vehicle HUGE enough for the rare occassions that most of use, have need to haul 4X8 sheets of plywood. No, the old purchase "standards" will now disappear, thankfully. Have you noticed that you can BUY a single axle trailer for those ODD jobs for as little as $500...?? My '93 Ranger is scheduled to go away, along with the insurance costs, for that very reason, $500 utilty trailer.
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Replying to: wwest (Jun 09, 2008 11:01 am)  We're talking about different things here. You're coming at it from a Harry Homeowner standpoint, which is fine—and I have no argument with that. What I'm saying 4x8 capability is still very important to those who earn a living with pickups. A properly designed mid-size pickup (wider!) can fill the needs of many who have been traditional 1/2-ton buyers. Also, not all contractors buy HD 3/4-ton trucks. Again I say Honda is in the best position of any truckmaker to exploit this market, and I hope they do. The Ridgeline already is already wide enough and can match the payloads of many full-size 1/2-tons. What it needs are more model configurations, one being a regular cab with an 8' bed. Finally, Honda has stated a number of times that a V6 diesel is in the works for their larger vehicles, the Ridgeline being one of them. I'm not making this up. It's a matter of record. Would they also offer a 4-cylinder diesel? I guess it's always possible, if the engine were large enough. My guess is it would have to be in the 2.5 – 3.0 range, which is pretty big for a 4-banger. Toyota and Nissan offer 2.5+ diesels in other markets, so it's certainly possible. Bob |
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 09, 2008 12:05 pm) I want a hybrid Ridgeline. Put the hybrid system where the built in tool box is and I'm on board. Give me a Hybrid Ridgeline that can get something in the high 20's; that's what I want.
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 09, 2008 4:53 pm) http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/84 http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2100 The general feeling in the automotive community seems to be that for larger vehicles, diesels make more sense. Honda certainly seems to feel this way, as do the German automakers. Bob |
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 09, 2008 4:53 pm) Regular Gasoline in CA $4.49 For those that are good at math or can use a calculator diesel is approximately 9% more than gasoline. Diesel engines deliver 25% or greater efficiency than comparable gasoline engine. Still asking why diesel? A Toyota Tacoma (Hilux) sold in the UK equipped with diesel engine is rated at 36.6 mpg highway, and that is after the Imperial to US unit conversion.
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