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Mazda CX-7, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru B9 Tribeca, Car Comparisons, SUV
#257 of 263 Re: ALG List is current [ateixeira]
by dodo2
Sep 18, 2007 (11:18 am)
That may change if most Outlander owners are as happy as you seem to be.
If you judge by the owners’ posts on various Outlander forums, I think it's safe to say that over 90% of the Outlander owners are indeed happy with their cars so far.
There were very few minor problems with the car for its first year in North America and Mitsubishi was very quick in addressing them. What's not to be happy about?
Of course, it's still too early to rate its long-term reliability, but so far so good. Fingers crossed.
#258 of 263 Re: ALG List is current [ateixeira]
by chelentano
Sep 18, 2007 (11:22 am)
>> You must be a gambling man. If your Outlander is totalled tomorrow, the insurance payout will be much smaller than it would be for a similarly priced (when new) RAV4.
I would consider an event as gambling, when I have one chance for unfortunate event out of two, or in some cases out of 100 or so. The possibility of my car being totaled is based on very large assumption of yours and would not qualify as gambling. I mean do you consider driving as gambling? If your car would be totaled, quite likely you would not even know about it, or at least your would not care about a difference in your car "insurance payout". Fight for you life will be the only a fixation on your mind
#259 of 263 Re: ALG List is current [chelentano]
by ateixeira
Sep 18, 2007 (1:26 pm)
The gambling reference was in response to the idea that the expectation was that resale would improve significantly.
Any how, I agree that a purchase choice should be made primarily on the merits of a test drive, and a personal evaluation. Never mind what the reviews say.
After all, do you recall Time magazine's review of Titanic?
They called it "Dead in the Water".
#260 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [ateixeira]
by aviboy97
Sep 18, 2007 (2:31 pm)
That's the clincher for a lot of folks, the 2GR engine is both powerful AND efficient.
Transmission gearing also has a say in how many MPG's you get. Toyota has figured out a happy median between performance and just cruising. Most Toyota drivers do not drive as aggressive as say a Mazda buyer, so, Toyota can focus more on economy, rather then performance their main priority. Mazda is notorious for having higher gearing at higher speed which effects it's highway MPG's. The benefit is your engine is ready to push, which fits the "zoom-zoom" way of building a car.
My Mazda6 2.3L is turning almost 3,500 rpm's at 70 mph and I get 30mpg's. If the engine was turning 3,000 rpm's at that speed, I bet you I would get 32-34 mpg's.
#261 of 263 Re: ALG List is current [ateixeira]
by chelentano
Sep 18, 2007 (2:34 pm)
Yeap, and I also remember:
"I think there is a world market for about 5 computers" - Thomas Watson (Chairman of IBM), 1943
640k ought to be enough for everyone" - Bill Gates on computer memory, 1981
...and finally about cars:
"With over 50 foreign cars already on sale here, the Japanese auto industry isn't like to carve out a big slice of the US market" - Business Week, 1968
#262 of 263 Re: ALG List is current [chelentano]
by ateixeira
Sep 19, 2007 (8:05 am)
The 640k comment is the one that really cracks me up!
Critics will be critics. Often I feel they want to be seen as fiercely independent so they'll be overly critical of a car.
A good example is Jeremy Clarkson, he's hyper-critical in an attempt to be funny, but some times it just comes off as mean.