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Outlander vs CX-7 vs Tribeca

263 messages,  Last post on Sep 19, 2007 at 8:05 AM

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What is this discussion about? Mazda CX-7, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru B9 Tribeca, Car Comparisons, SUV

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#237 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [dodo2] by carlitos92

Sep 17, 2007 (2:25 pm)

Replying to: dodo2 (Sep 17, 2007 12:42 pm)
Well, OBJECTIVELY, that V-6 in the RAV out-accelerates everything else in its class, and most other CUVs.

#238 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [carlitos92] by ateixeira

Sep 17, 2007 (2:31 pm)

Replying to: carlitos92 (Sep 17, 2007 2:25 pm)
...while averaging the best MPG, too.
 
That's the clincher for a lot of folks, the 2GR engine is both powerful AND efficient.
 
It's very, very easy to be ONE of those things.
 
The 2GR is both at the same time. That's what is impressive about it. You can be quicker and spend less on gas, too, at the same time.
 
It's a huge selling point.

#239 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [carlitos92] by dodo2

Sep 17, 2007 (2:42 pm)

Replying to: carlitos92 (Sep 17, 2007 2:25 pm)
Well, OBJECTIVELY, that V-6 in the RAV out-accelerates everything else in its class, and most other CUVs.
 
OBJECTIVELY, you are correct. The trouble is that OBJECTIVELY, the Outlander out-brake, out-slalom, out-handle the RAV4. Based on that, I would say the Outlander out-performs the RAV4.

#240 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [carlitos92] by chelentano

Sep 17, 2007 (2:44 pm)

Replying to: carlitos92 (Sep 17, 2007 2:25 pm)
Sure, but OBJECTIVLY the engine, is the only a thing the RAV4 has going for it.
 
OBJECTIVLY RAV4 has outdated 5-speed transmission, outdated AWD witch can lock all wheels only at up to 25 mph, lousy stereo, no navigation, no MP3 server, no Fast Key, no Bluetooth, no Xenons, inconvenient curbside loading, dull interior, basic warranty, and lower in class owner satisfaction ratings (yahoo, MSN, Edmunds).

#241 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [dodo2] by steve_ HOST

Sep 17, 2007 (2:52 pm)

Replying to: dodo2 (Sep 17, 2007 2:42 pm)
the RAV out-accelerates everything else in its class, and most other CUVs.
 
Ferrari vs. Small Ridiculously Overpowered Crossover SUV (keep reading - the RAV4 is in there )

#242 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [ateixeira] by dodo2

Sep 17, 2007 (3:10 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 17, 2007 2:31 pm)
Right, but this comparo is not about the selling points.
The comparo is about which one is the best OVERALL package.
Many buyers in this segment look for the bang for the buck aside from fuel economy.
Which factor is more important depends on the buyer.
 
On a side note, I think the RAV4 mostly sells because it's a Toyota, and then because of the exceptional V6. I would be curious to see how many RAV4 I4s and how many are V6s were sold. Anyone has any numbers? This would be a good indicator of what drives the RAV4 sales.

#243 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [chelentano] by carlitos92

Sep 17, 2007 (4:13 pm)

Replying to: chelentano (Sep 17, 2007 2:44 pm)
Actually, the IMPORTANCE of all the features you list, is quite subjective. If people don't like xenons, or need an MP3 server, NAV, or whatever a "fast key" is, then the Outlander sucks wind. Kindof like it does accelerating onto a freeway, compared to a RAV4 V6...

#244 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [carlitos92] by chelentano

Sep 17, 2007 (5:41 pm)

Replying to: carlitos92 (Sep 17, 2007 4:13 pm)
Another list of excuses. Sure, if your car does not have all these features, then you don't need them. 20-30 years ago people used to say this kind of excuses about the lack of power windows and auto transmission.
 
Outlander is a much better balanced car as a package, and it has more power vs. CRV and Rogue, and it has as much power as Lexus RX330 while it's equipped as well as RX350.

#245 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [chelentano] by carlitos92

Sep 17, 2007 (6:28 pm)

Replying to: chelentano (Sep 17, 2007 5:41 pm)
Another broken-record response. Sure, if your car has these features, then everybody must want them, and that makes your car better.
 
It's okay that the Outlander has more power than the CR-V. The Mitsu probably needs that power to carry around its 300 extra pounds.

#246 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [carlitos92] by dodo2

Sep 17, 2007 (7:50 pm)

Replying to: carlitos92 (Sep 17, 2007 6:28 pm)
I guess 32.5% power increase (166hp vs. 220 hp) and 26.7% torque increase (161 vs. 204 lb. ft.) is enough to move aprox. 8.5% more mass (less than 300lb. more for a fully loaded Outlander) with power to spare.
The Outlander is anything but underpowered.

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