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Outlander vs CX-7 vs Tribeca

263 messages,  Last post on Sep 19, 2007 at 8:05 AM

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What is this discussion about? Mazda CX-7, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru B9 Tribeca, Car Comparisons, SUV

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#234 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [ateixeira] by dodo2

Sep 17, 2007 (12:42 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 17, 2007 12:20 pm)
What you said is true for the average Toyota buyer and maybe for the average car buyer; however the comparo we are commenting on is about ranking the vehicles against a set of given criteria, based on HARD DATA. The sales volume, resale value, brand prestige, perceived reliability and other subjective factors should not count at all and they are not included in the scoring system.
 
We all know that the emotional component is a big part of the purchase decision and a third-party, OBJECTIVE evaluation is meant to take that emotion out of the equation. This is the reason why the SUBJECTIVE component in this evaluation should theoretically total 5% only (which is not true unfortunately).

#235 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [ateixeira] by dodo2

Sep 17, 2007 (12:48 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 17, 2007 12:20 pm)
So my minivan did better than my MIATA did on the same trip, holy cow!
 
I bet you still like way better taking the same trip in your Miata than your Sienna.

#236 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [dodo2] by ateixeira

Sep 17, 2007 (12:58 pm)

Replying to: dodo2 (Sep 17, 2007 12:48 pm)
Actually, it depends.
 
For the first hour, I prefer the Miata. Then it starts feeling cramped and I get wind-burned (the top is ALWAYS down).
 
Any longer than that, and I'll take the comfort of the Sienna.

#237 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [dodo2] by carlitos92

Sep 17, 2007 (2:25 pm)

Replying to: dodo2 (Sep 17, 2007 12:42 pm)
Well, OBJECTIVELY, that V-6 in the RAV out-accelerates everything else in its class, and most other CUVs.

#238 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [carlitos92] by ateixeira

Sep 17, 2007 (2:31 pm)

Replying to: carlitos92 (Sep 17, 2007 2:25 pm)
...while averaging the best MPG, too.
 
That's the clincher for a lot of folks, the 2GR engine is both powerful AND efficient.
 
It's very, very easy to be ONE of those things.
 
The 2GR is both at the same time. That's what is impressive about it. You can be quicker and spend less on gas, too, at the same time.
 
It's a huge selling point.

#239 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [carlitos92] by dodo2

Sep 17, 2007 (2:42 pm)

Replying to: carlitos92 (Sep 17, 2007 2:25 pm)
Well, OBJECTIVELY, that V-6 in the RAV out-accelerates everything else in its class, and most other CUVs.
 
OBJECTIVELY, you are correct. The trouble is that OBJECTIVELY, the Outlander out-brake, out-slalom, out-handle the RAV4. Based on that, I would say the Outlander out-performs the RAV4.

#240 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [carlitos92] by chelentano

Sep 17, 2007 (2:44 pm)

Replying to: carlitos92 (Sep 17, 2007 2:25 pm)
Sure, but OBJECTIVLY the engine, is the only a thing the RAV4 has going for it.
 
OBJECTIVLY RAV4 has outdated 5-speed transmission, outdated AWD witch can lock all wheels only at up to 25 mph, lousy stereo, no navigation, no MP3 server, no Fast Key, no Bluetooth, no Xenons, inconvenient curbside loading, dull interior, basic warranty, and lower in class owner satisfaction ratings (yahoo, MSN, Edmunds).

#241 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [dodo2] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Sep 17, 2007 (2:52 pm)

Replying to: dodo2 (Sep 17, 2007 2:42 pm)
the RAV out-accelerates everything else in its class, and most other CUVs.
 
Ferrari vs. Small Ridiculously Overpowered Crossover SUV (keep reading - the RAV4 is in there )

#242 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [ateixeira] by dodo2

Sep 17, 2007 (3:10 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 17, 2007 2:31 pm)
Right, but this comparo is not about the selling points.
The comparo is about which one is the best OVERALL package.
Many buyers in this segment look for the bang for the buck aside from fuel economy.
Which factor is more important depends on the buyer.
 
On a side note, I think the RAV4 mostly sells because it's a Toyota, and then because of the exceptional V6. I would be curious to see how many RAV4 I4s and how many are V6s were sold. Anyone has any numbers? This would be a good indicator of what drives the RAV4 sales.

#243 of 263 Re: Recent Edmunds Comparo [chelentano] by carlitos92

Sep 17, 2007 (4:13 pm)

Replying to: chelentano (Sep 17, 2007 2:44 pm)
Actually, the IMPORTANCE of all the features you list, is quite subjective. If people don't like xenons, or need an MP3 server, NAV, or whatever a "fast key" is, then the Outlander sucks wind. Kindof like it does accelerating onto a freeway, compared to a RAV4 V6...

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