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121 messages, Last post on Aug 26, 2009 at 7:49 PM
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| We are going to replace our Civic with some small SUV. My husband considers the Outlander. He likes all the features and the steering. For me reliability is a key factor, so I'd like to consider RAV and CRV. Has anyone done a similar comarison? | |
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Replying to: brown99 (Jun 10, 2007 10:01 pm) |
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Replying to: brown99 (Jun 10, 2007 10:01 pm)  Optional dealer installed accessories for Outlander: Outlander catalog Consumer Reports ratings: CR Best and Worst And I agree with the previous poster: swinging gate on the RAV is not good for curbside loading.
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Replying to: chelentano (Jun 12, 2007 7:28 pm) Powertrain- All the gears and "tri-mode" 4WD systems in the world don't change the fact that the RAV4 has more power and gets better mileage. Handling/Braking- I'll grant you the Outlander had a better slalom time, but even Motor Trend would have to admit that 0.3 seconds in the figure 8 and 2 feet of difference in stopping distance from 60 are far less than the vehicle-to-vehicle variability that you would see on either model. Yeah, 18 inch wheels look nice, but when the tires are 25+% more expensive to replace, you realize that every design choice has its benefits and detriments. Safety- Since when are wheel locks and a car alarm safety items? This section is where it starts to become pretty obvious that this comparison was generated by someone who is trying to sell you a Mitsubishi. Features- Here we continue the salesmanship. Paddle shifters? My guess is that after the first month of ownership, 99% of owners will put the transmission in drive and forget about the paddle shifters. My sister used to have a first-generation Dodge Stratus that was one of the first manumatics on the market. AutoStick was also really cool- for the first week. If you're looking for fun, involved driving, your dealer likely has a Miata on the used lot that you should consider. Yes, keyless operation is nice, but do you really think it would be a deal breaker for most buyers? Skid plates- Yeah, you need skid plates on a FWD based, unit-body SUV. Dealer installed wood trim? Do I really need to expand on this one? Entertainment- Funny, there's no mention here of the standard 6-disc changer or optional rear DVD system in the RAV4. As for the Hard Drive Music Server, my RAV4 has something similar. It's the iPod jack, and you can take it with you and listen through headphones, unlike the Mitsubishi's. That final 31-7 score looks pretty convincing, until you stop to consider where it came from...
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Replying to: chelentano (Jun 12, 2007 7:28 pm) 
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Replying to: leeharvey418 (Jun 21, 2007 9:39 am) However, instead disecting his comparison, offer your own, more objective comparison. The other guy put some effort into what he presented (biased as it may be)...  In my humble opinion, each of the three vehicles is equally competent. I think that the prospective buyer should test drive each one (which car "feels" best) and then consider the value (what do I get for what I'm paying).
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Replying to: chelentano (Jun 12, 2007 7:28 pm) REPORT CARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Highs: Powertrain, handling. Lows: Ride, road noise, fit and finish, radio controls with optional navigation. Ratings Snapshot (see below for detail) NEW Predicted reliability Fuel economy NEW Owner satisfaction Acceleration NA Predicted depreciation Ride Accident avoidance Front seat comfort NA / NA Crash protect w/wo side air bags The redesigned 2007 Outlander uses a new, larger platform that allows room for a tiny third-row seat. An all-new 3.0-liter, 220-hp V6 provides a lot of punch and is smooth and refined. A four-cylinder engine will likely be offered later. The slick transmission is a new six-speed automatic. Handling is fairly agile, with restrained body lean and quick, well-weighted steering. It is also secure and capable at its handling limits, due in part to its standard electronic stability control. The ride is fairly stiff and road noise is pronounced. Interior fit and finish is a bit disappointing. Quick Picks For all-around competence: Toyota RAV4 Limited (V6) Toyota RAV4 (base, 4-cyl.) Subaru Forester Sports 2.5 XT Honda CR-V Subaru Forester 2.5 X Both RAV4s are refined and capable. The Forester is a practical and affordable vehicle, but it has stability control only in the Sports XT trim. The CR-V is fairly agile, with good fuel economy and a roomy rear seat. For off-roading and towing: Nissan Xterra The Xterra’s strong V6 and truck-based platform allow it to tow 5,000 pounds. It is also good for serious off-roading. |
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Replying to: psychogun (Jun 21, 2007 12:27 pm)
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Replying to: leeharvey418 (Jun 21, 2007 9:39 am) Your response includes only excuses. Nice big tires, but “25% more expensive to replace”. No wheel locks and security system – ‘Safety’ is a wrong category! (alright I should call it ‘safety and security’). Paddle shifters and autostick – useless! Skidplates – useless! “Looking for fun, involved driving” – get Miata (not the RAV, I guess)! No music server – use iPod! No navigation system - use a map! No car – walk! You call my comparison biased, but I listed the all hard facts. You could not deny a single one and you have not found any unique RAV4 feature, which I did not mention. You response is more biased, since you provide only excuses. As Psychogun said, “offer your own, more objective comparison”. RAV4 is a nice car, but the Outlander is better. RAV4 has more powerful and efficient engine, but Outlander beats RAV in everything else: warranty, features, handling, AWD system, transmission, safety and security, entertainment, value. Outlander is better all-around car. If you have a conspiracy theory, that I am a Mitsubishi salesman, who are the other hundreds of people, who rated Outlander higher and RAV lower on major consumer ratings sites? Are they salespeople too?
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Replying to: chelentano (Jun 21, 2007 5:12 pm)
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