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#12 of 15 Re: Weak torque engine is not good for an automatic car. [eldaino] by jeffyscott Jun 14, 2007 (8:54 am)
Replying to: eldaino (Jun 14, 2007 8:27 am) The thing is, they actually accelerate about the same.   My guess would be, if that is true, that the rabbit is probably typically faster getting to, say, 30 mph. The better power at low rpm is real and would lead to better initial accelertion. It feels quicker because it is, at least to some point. If they end up about the same it is because the civic is probably faster at higher revs, so from 30-60 for example it may beat the rabbit.   Edmunds tests actually show sgnificantly better times for the rabbit for acceleration from 0 to any speed. To 30, 45, 60, or 75 mph.   Rabbit performance data   Civic performance data Replies to this message: eldaino (Jun 15, 2007 6:45 am) jeffyscott (Jun 15, 2007 7:10 am)
#13 of 15 Re: Weak torque engine is not good for an automatic car. [jeffyscott] by eldaino Jun 15, 2007 (6:45 am)
Replying to: jeffyscott (Jun 14, 2007 8:54 am) most of the 0-60 times i calculated myself were pretty dang close.   The civic data you state is with the auto, the rabbit is sporting the manual, so that would explain the time difference.   Theres lots of data with manual civics getting 0-60 in high 7's.   The rabbit is probably quicker 0-30, i totally agree with that. But it does start to die down at higher rpms...thats when the civic is getting started.   anywho, both good cars, with similar performance. One does it more luxuriously, one does it with better mileage and more road feel. Replies to this message: jeffyscott (Jun 15, 2007 7:10 am)
#14 of 15 Re: Weak torque engine is not good for an automatic car. [eldaino] by jeffyscott Jun 15, 2007 (7:10 am)
Replying to: eldaino (Jun 15, 2007 6:45 am) The civic data you state is with the auto, the rabbit is sporting the manual, so that would explain the time difference.   Thanks, I did not catch that. I had just assumed that they used the manual as that what they typically test, despite the fact that 90%+ are buying automatics.   Before I looked for the data, I had actually expected to see the rabbit be faster 0-30, but the civic beating it from 30-60, or whatever...based on your statement that they were both about the same. So that is actually probably the case. I think that is the reason the rabbit feels quicker is because the quick start is more noticable than being a little quicker at high rpms.
#15 of 15 Weak torque engine is not good for an automatic car. [exzur2071] by canadag by exzur2071 Jun 15, 2007 (8:38 am)
If my daughter can drive the stick, I would had bought her the Civic. I just feel the Civic stick is much better the German counterpart. The automatic is a different story.   Me and my daughter road tested both cars. It was an easy decision to pick the Rabbit.   The whys.   - 6 seed automatic Tiptronic engage with a 170 ft lbs torque engine in the universe of 5 sped or 4 speed tied up with weak torque 4 cyl engine. - she likes the interior much better than the other car and the ride too. - the aura of a German car built in Geramny.   At one time I read an article about the influence of torque in a torque converter automatic transmission. It's not good for a weak torque engine.   You guys meke me do some research.   Sorry for the late response.

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