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Sedans Toyota Camry Which Camry is right for me?
54 messages, Last post on Jan 09, 2008 at 7:27 PM
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Replying to: chuck28 (Dec 19, 2007 7:45 pm)  I think your point is that we should hear from those who have actually experienced the flare on whether a test drive will show the problem - makes sense to me. 
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Replying to: pat (Dec 20, 2007 4:03 am) I also don't understand your answer to the point that a test drive would not determine if the car has the flare problem. If you test drive a car and it does not flare does not mean it does not have the problem. My car only flared once in the morning and once in the evening. Point was the car has to come off a cold start and the flare cannot usually be repeated until the next cold start. Most test drives don't take place with a cold start. Anyhow, Merry Christmas!
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Replying to: chuck28 (Dec 19, 2007 7:45 pm) I am not pro Toyota! The only reasons why I own a Toyota Camry today are as follows: 1.) The Honda Accord seating quality was killing my body.---- and ---- 2.) I could not get an "in stock" Buick or Chevrolet Impala, (in New Jersey), with the required color & trim package. The Toyota Camry was third on the list of desired vehicles. I wanted to purchase an American brand name in place of my Honda Accord. Yes, ---- I earn my living in sales, but I do not sell Toyotas. From what I have been reading about this problem, the "flare" is just part of the issue. Some owners are commenting about the "shift pattern" when accelerating onto a highway, or quick acceleration / braking issues in passing situations. SUGGESTION: If you truly want to purchase a new Camry. Go to a Toyota dealer and discuss your concerns about the "flare issue" with the sales person at the dealership. Tell him / her that you will purchase the vehicle if it does not have the problem! --Select a vehicle that you want to purchase from their new vehicle holding lot. Ask for a set of dealer plates, and take that vehicle for a ride! If is does not have the problem, you have just bought yourself a new vehicle. When I purchased my Camry, I took a test ride on the vehicle that I was purchasing. YES, it was a cold start of the vehicle! Best regards. ----- Dwayne 
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Replying to: chuck28 (Dec 20, 2007 8:39 pm) I did not say anywhere that a test drive would (or would not) determine if the car has the flare problem. Read it again. Pat
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Replying to: pat (Dec 21, 2007 8:58 am) I can assure you they have a problem. Atleast my 07 v-6 Camry does. I said it before Buyer Beware!!! Merry Christmas!!! Chuck
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Replying to: chuck28 (Dec 21, 2007 10:03 pm) Yes, I do sell Toyotas and also drive what I sell. I've owned three Camrys and would buy another one in a heartbeat, even without test driving to check for the so called "flare". This flare is nothing but the transmission shifting quickly into the next gear. Mackabee |
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Potential buyers of the Toyota 3.5L V6 (found in the Sienna, Avalon and Camry) need be aware of the high repair costs that are associated with this engine. On page 9 of the factory service manual, it states the instructions for water pump removal. Replacing the water pump on the Toyota 3.5L V6 require engine and transaxle removal! For those of us who plan to keep this vehicle for as long as possible (200k+), it's very likely that we'll have to replace the water pump at least once. With this design, replacing the water pump is likely to be very, very expensive, possibly at least twice the amount it costs to replace the timing belt and water pump on a Honda 3.5L V6. This is something that potential buyers of the Toyota 3.5L V6 need to keep in mind.
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Replying to: sodaguy (Dec 22, 2007 2:23 pm) Thank you for sharing this information with regards to the water pump on the 3.5 V6 Toyota engine. Because of issues like this, I always purchase a 6 year / 100,000 miles / top of the line manufacturers extended warranty when I purchase a new vehicle. I easily put on 20,000 miles a year, so in five years, (or sooner), I will have 100,000 miles. During that period of time & mileage, I expect to replace a water pump, alternator, and / or an A/C compressor. I guess the water pump repair will pay for the total cost of the extended warranty! I will not own this vehicle past 100,000 miles. Vehicles without an extended warranty are just too expensive to repair! When I owned the 2003 Honda Accord, the vehicle was great untill it hit 50,000 miles. Between 50,000 miles and 80,000 + miles, the Honda extended warranty put $3,300.00 worth of repairs into the vehicle. The A/C compressor was $1,000.00 dollars. Best regards & Happy Holidays! ------------ Dwayne
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Hi All, I will greatly appreciate your advice/coments on helping me decide to buy my next car after I had an accident. I have to decide on these two cars as my 02 Camry was declared a total loss. Camry 03 has 36600 miles - Desert Sand Camry 05 has 60000 miles - Sky Blue Pearl Both the cars have these options and are certified from toyota (3mo/3000 mile bumber-bumber, 7yr/100000 mile power train). Certified Vehicle Power Windows Power Door Locks Tilt Wheel Remote Trunk Release Cruise Control Tachometer AM/FM Stereo Cassette Player CD Changer Tinted Glass Additional Power Outlet(s) Air Conditioning Climate Control - Auto Heated Front Seats Heated Seats Power Driver Seat Power Passenger Seat Arm Rest - Rear Center Arm Rest Leather Seats Map Pockets 5 Passenger Seating Roof - Power Moon Power Mirrors Mirrors-w Turn Signals Body Side Molding Fog Lights Compass Console Sunglass Holders Cup Holders Trip Odometer -Dual Reading Lights Clock Air Bag - Driver Air Bag - Passenger Air Bags - Head Air Bags - Side Rear Shoulder Harness Traction Control Power Steering Power Brakes Front Disc Brakes Anti-Lock Brakes Front Wheel Drive Rear Disc Brakes Intermittent Wipers Rear Defrost Homelink Window Locks I am in a delimma on the color vs power train warranty for 03 and 05. I do not drive much to work and expect to put around 5000 miles per year. Would buying the 03 be a good decision ? Thanks in advance for your response. Rajeev.
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Replying to: rajeevg7us (Jan 06, 2008 7:32 pm) p.s. Give us the rest of the info and we'll help ypu...thx caaz
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