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#13 of 26 Re: Oil Change [woffy] by kinct Oct 28, 2008 (6:18 am)
Replying to: woffy (Oct 27, 2008 4:00 pm) That's a load of bull. Yes, it will expand when heated, but, um, 1/2 a quart. No. Tell them, nice try, but you'd like the other 1/2 quart, thank you very much.
#14 of 26 Re: Oil Change [woffy] by shipo Oct 29, 2008 (1:18 pm)
Replying to: woffy (Oct 27, 2008 4:00 pm) Yeah, the expansion thing is a bunch of BS. That said, virtually every manufacturer that I've looked at recently recommend filling the oil pan so that the oil level shows about half of a quart low. Why? Beats the stuffin' out of me. I routinely fill all of our cars with about a half of an extra quart when changing the oil, and they always show exactly full on the dip stick.   Best regards, Shipo Replies to this message: woffy (Oct 30, 2008 1:33 pm) shipo (Oct 31, 2008 11:21 am) woffy (Nov 03, 2008 3:36 pm)
#15 of 26 Re: Oil Change [shipo] by woffy Oct 30, 2008 (1:33 pm)
Replying to: shipo (Oct 29, 2008 1:18 pm) Thanks Shipo. One really odd thing about this, the dealer is saying Audi's instruction to him is to fill the crankcase to where the dipstick shows 1/2 quart low, while my owners manual tells me I should be thinking about adding oil when it is at the same level. There is a big disconnect here!   I've also done some more investigating and talking to Audi and the dealer's service manager. I'm now at the opinion that my oil was not changed. I bought a bottle of the same oil my invoice said was put in and compared the look of it to what I got out of the crankcase on the dipstick and on my towel. The crankcase oil seems darker to my eye. Also, my car wasn't washed when I picked it up. The practice of this dealer is to always wash the cars before presenting to the customer. Plus my tires were not rotated as I asked for them to be. Really makes me suspicious.   Also, how does one go about getting oil analyzed should the dealer not acknowledge any fault? I've searched the local places on GOOGLE and can't readily find a place which does this in the area. Replies to this message: shipo (Oct 31, 2008 11:21 am) woffy (Nov 03, 2008 3:36 pm)
#16 of 26 Re: Oil Change [woffy] by shipo Oct 31, 2008 (11:21 am)
Replying to: woffy (Oct 30, 2008 1:33 pm) A couple of points:   1) The color of oil has absolutely-positively zero correlation to its suitability for lubrication of the engine that its in. Said another way, it is entirely likely that oil can darken significantly after only a few dozen miles.   2) Very few of us live near a company that performs Used Oil Analysis (UOA). Most folks, me included, send our oil out for analysis, and many of those folks use Blackstone Labs (they'll send you an oil sample mailing kit for free). http://www.blackstone-labs.com   Best regards, Shipo Replies to this message: woffy (Nov 03, 2008 3:36 pm)
#17 of 26 Re: Oil Change [shipo] by woffy Nov 03, 2008 (3:36 pm)
Replying to: shipo (Oct 31, 2008 11:21 am) Thanks again Shipo. I've ordered the sample kit from Blackstone Labs.
#18 of 26 Re: Motor oils for A3 and similar Audi/VW turbo 4s [geewillie] by ahmed Jan 07, 2009 (9:08 pm)
Replying to: geewillie (Jun 04, 2007 12:31 am) My dealer just put 5W30 into my GTI, while the manual calls for 5W40. I thought I was paying the premium price because I could trust the dealer to do the right thing. Besides he charged me $3.50 for oil disposal whereas I can drop old oil at a service station for nothing. So this mysterious and pompous spec called 502 00 is apparently whatever the dealer chooses to dump in. Or am I paranoid? Replies to this message: shipo (Jan 08, 2009 3:19 am) ahmed (Jan 08, 2009 6:15 pm)
#19 of 26 Re: Motor oils for A3 and similar Audi/VW turbo 4s [ahmed] by shipo Jan 08, 2009 (3:19 am)
Replying to: ahmed (Jan 07, 2009 9:08 pm) Possibly paranoid.   Oils that meet the 502.00 oil spec include 0W-30, 5W-30, 0W-40 and 5W-40. If the oil meets the spec (the #1 criteria for acceptable oil), then you do not have to worry about the specific weight.   For more information, read the first couple of dozen posts in this thread: pat, "Volkswagen Passat Oil Changes & Issues" #1, 13 Mar 2006 11:52 am   Best regards, Shipo Replies to this message: ahmed (Jan 08, 2009 6:15 pm)
#20 of 26 Re: Motor oils for A3 and similar Audi/VW turbo 4s [shipo] by ahmed Jan 08, 2009 (6:15 pm)
Replying to: shipo (Jan 08, 2009 3:19 am) Thanks Shipo, that settles my mind.
#21 of 26 Oil by fho2008 Jan 10, 2009 (3:40 am)
I called Mobil......M1 0W-30. Replies to this message: shipo (Jan 10, 2009 5:18 am)
#22 of 26 Re: Oil [fho2008] by shipo Jan 10, 2009 (5:18 am)
Replying to: fho2008 (Jan 10, 2009 3:40 am) Ummm, no, there isn't a single Mobil 1 0W-30 oil certified for use in VW/Audi engines. In spite of what someone from Mobil told you, if you use 0W-30 in your engine, you will run the risk of having VW or Audi refuse you engine warranty work.   FWIW, the ONLY Mobil 1 oil certified for VW and Audi engines in North America is Mobil 1 0W-40.   http://www.audiusa.com/etc/medialib/cms4imp/audi2/aoa/company/aoa-specific.Par.0- - 023.File.pdf   Best regards, Shipo

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