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26 messages, Last post on Jun 21, 2009 at 6:51 PM
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Does anyone out there know of a synthetic motor oil brand BESIDES what Audi or VW wants to sell us at their dealers that matches what my '07 Audi A3 owner's manual specifies as the "Audi oil standard VW 502 00" (p.286)? I went to a chain auto repair store with quite a selection of brands and viscosities. NONE of those brands included meeting this VW 502 00 standard. Many did include standards for the most popular cars sold in the U.S., e.g. Toyota, GM, Ford, Chrysler. I wonder if the last three digits of the VW 502 00 is code that the oil be able to meete the high temperatures for engines with 200 or more horsepower? I bought Pennzoil's best synthetic 5W 30 since this new parts store didn't have the desired SAE 5W 40, which is Audi's first choice in viscosity AS LONG AS IT MET their "VW 502 00" standard." Are there any code talkers out there?
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Replying to: geewillie (Jun 04, 2007 12:31 am) shipo, "Volkswagen Passat Oil Changes & Issues" #8, 10 Mar 2006 9:48 pm For 502.00: - Castrol Syntec 5W-40 - Pennzoil Platinum European Formulation 5W-40 For the superior 503.01 (meets and exceeds 502.00) - Castrol Syntec 0W-30 - Mobil 1 0W-40 (my personal preference) Hope this helps. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: geewillie (Jun 04, 2007 12:31 am)
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Replying to: geewillie (Jun 04, 2007 3:01 pm) If you want me to E-Mail you the bulletin, just look up my E-Mail address and I'll fire it right off.  Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 04, 2007 4:31 pm) They claim the 0W-40 and 5W-40 is for colder climates?
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Replying to: andres3 (Jun 14, 2007 8:43 am) They do huh? If a dealership told me that about my new Audi I'd quickly be finding a new dealership as I'd never trust them to lay a finger on my car. The fact is that 0W-40 will "out-winter" a 5W-30 AND "out-summer" that same 5W-30 regardless of the time of the year and the prevailing weather. Said another way, for your car that requires at least an oil that is certified to meet the VW 502.00 oil spec, there is no better oil for it than a 503.01 certified 0W-40 (a close second would be a 503.01 certified 0W-30). Best Regards, Shipo |
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I was mainly concerned with finding the proper VW/Audi certified 502.00 oil and didn't want to go to the dealers to buy it. I ended buying a quart, just as a spare for the car, from my mechanic I used for my out-of-warranty Passat -- for five bucks a quart, which I considered a deal. I can't recall the viscosity, but it met my needs that the manufacturer insists upon.
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Replying to: geewillie (Jun 14, 2007 5:09 pm) Castrol Syntec 5W-40 Castrol Syntec 0W-30 Mobil 1 0W-40 The first is only certified as a 502.00, the last two are certified as both 502.00 AND 503.01 (which means they are MUCH better oils). Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 14, 2007 5:40 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Jun 15, 2007 9:49 am) Can I give you the specific benchmarks that VW requires for an oil to meet that lofty spec? Nope. I've looked and looked, and as of yet have been unable to find it. What I do know though is that oils based on Group III Hydrocracked Crude can be made robust enough to meet the 502.00 standard, however, not a single Group III oil has ever been stable enough to meet the 503.01 spec, that seems to be a realm where only fully synthetic Group IV oils need apply. Best Regards, Shipo |
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