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You are in the BMW 3-Series
What is this discussion about?
BMW 3 Series, Sedan, Wagon
#46 of 429 Re: BMW 335i VS BMW 335xi [xeye]
Sep 28, 2007 (12:07 pm)
just because I choose to drive a safe car with a 300 hp engine is no reflection on any desire to run at high RPM. "High RPM" does not necessarily mean 130 MPH on the track - it also means red-line shifting in any gear, anywhere.
Calm down. The oil overheating issue doesn't occur from occassionally, or even frequently, shifting at red line. The documenting instances of overheating were almost exclusively from running the car at high speed and high rpms for long, continuous periods of time. Either on a track or in a severe road test environment (i.e. California desert).
You asked why the cooler isn't standard in the ix, but is in the sport package equiped i. I relayed what I was told by a senior BMW engineer. I agree it appears to be a marketing decision, based upon the fact that, historically, the "x" AWD package was an even more infrequent visitor to the track, compared to RWD models.
Out of idle curiosity, what do you drive?
2003 BMW M5 (46,000 miles on the odometer)
2007 911 Turbo (9,500 miles on the odometer)
#47 of 429 Re: BMW 335i VS BMW 335xi [circlew]
Sep 28, 2007 (12:19 pm)
I applaud your nephew and I am sure he is "up to speed" on a much higher level now in terms of handling a car. I am curious as to why he chose xi over 335i.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but he chose the 335i, not the xi. He went the European Delivery route and the xi wasn't even a choice back then. His car was an early build and they notified him when the car was en route to the US that they would be installing an oil cooler upon arrival.
But let me use the opportunity to lobby on behalf of the BMW/Porsche/Skip Barber and other professionally instructed performance driving schools. If you can make the time, don't even think for a second about the money. They are worth many times their price in the expereince itself and the future enjoyment you will get out of your car.
#48 of 429 Re: BMW 335i VS BMW 335xi [spiritinthesky]
Sep 28, 2007 (1:51 pm)
Nice cars. I've wanted some seat time in the 911 Turbo since I was in short pants. A timeless set of wheels, to be sure.
I don't run my 335xi at the extreme conditions you describe, nor do I ever intend to, although a high-speed run across the country would be interesting ( I don't think I could afford the speeding tickets). The bottom line question I have, though, is do you think it would nonetheless extend the life of the seals, cylinders, valves, etc, by having the oil cooler in-line? Would it help sustain the resale value of the car? Remember that it will cost me no $$ to have the work done.
Let me know what you think.
cc HOST: I really have to remember to post messages BEFORE Attitude Readjustment Hour.
#49 of 429 Re: BMW 335i VS BMW 335xi [xeye]
Sep 28, 2007 (3:31 pm)
#50 of 429 Re: BMW 335i VS BMW 335xi
Sep 28, 2007 (7:28 pm)
I believe you can get the oil cooler on the xi. You have to get the SP and in addition order the 18 inch wheels.
#51 of 429 Re: BMW 335i VS BMW 335xi [xeye]
Sep 29, 2007 (5:21 am)
The bottom line question I have, though, is do you think it would nonetheless extend the life of the seals, cylinders, valves, etc, by having the oil cooler in-line? Would it help sustain the resale value of the car?
"Not really" to both questions - but it's free insurance so, yes, I'd go ahead and get it.
By the way, one of the best things you can do for your seals, cylinders and gaskets is proper break in. That includes driving the car long enough for the engine oil to reach full operating temperature before shut down. I've seen Shipo, Habitat or one of the other "regulars" posting that recommendation in various forums and it is probably the best free advice I've seen here. So, yes, take the free oil cooler as insurance for overheating; but also avoid short hops during break in that don't give the engine the opportunity to fully "heat up". If the engine parts, seals and gaskets don't fully heat up, expand and contract during break in, they will be more prone to leaks, cracks, etc. down the road.
Oct 01, 2007 (4:59 pm)
just got thru reading everything. what i learned is what i already thought i new awd on any car is better.being that all rubber being the same in any conditions on any roads.if anyone disagrees please explain where & when is it better.
#53 of 429 Re: a what ! [unlimitedjoe]
Oct 01, 2007 (5:02 pm)
Well, since you've read everything, I guess that settles it.
#54 of 429 Re: a what ! [unlimitedjoe]
Oct 01, 2007 (5:07 pm)
Too funny... Well folks, I guess the master has spoken. We can now pack up our toys and go on home.
#55 of 429 sorry i heart ur feelings
Oct 01, 2007 (5:41 pm)
not trying to be funny just wondering where cause i dont no. where is it better with fwd