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BMW 3-Series - AWD or RWD?

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Re: AWD performance enhancement in X6 [roadburner] by circlew
Dec 19, 2007 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Dec 19, 2007 10:44 am)

I wish some BMW buyers WOULD buy Buicks; maybe Munich would once again focus on their core enthusiast audience.
But I'm sure not holding my breath...
 
If the X-6 is an example and the premonition of x-drive in the 7 series, it doesn't look good for that wish to come true...ever!
 
Regards,
OW
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Driving Another AWD Bimmer... by roadburner
Dec 19, 2007 (5:19 pm)
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A 2007 X5 to be precise; it's the loaner my dealer gave me while they were changing the ATF and final drive fluids on my wife's X3. The big sled is very comfortable and handles reasonably well, but it sure isn't my cup of tea. More Buick than BMW, in my opinion...
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Re: Driving Another AWD Bimmer... [roadburner] by circlew
Dec 20, 2007 (3:41 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Dec 19, 2007 5:19 pm)

Let me know what you think after driving the new M. That MIGHT do it for you.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Driving Another AWD Bimmer... [circlew] by roadburner
Dec 20, 2007 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 20, 2007 3:41 am)

As I noted in the X3 topic, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the cost of servicing the AT and TC came to just $207, and I plan to continue servicing the drivetrain at 60K intervals. That said, I was glad to get the X3 back. I found it more enjoyable to drive than the X5.
 
Let me know what you think after driving the new M
 
I fervently hope BMW doesn't offer an ///M version of any of their trucks. At the 2001 press introduction of the 4.6is, BMW officials said that the ///M badge would be reserved for cars fitted with high performance engines and manual transmissions. May it ever be so...
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Re: Driving Another AWD Bimmer... [roadburner] by circlew
Dec 20, 2007 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Dec 20, 2007 9:28 am)

No, I meant the new M3. I'd like to see your capsule review after a test drive.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: AWD performance enhancement in X6 [roadburner] by bruceomega
Dec 21, 2007 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Dec 19, 2007 10:44 am)

I wish some BMW buyers WOULD buy Buicks; maybe Munich would once again focus on their core enthusiast audience.
 
Interesting proposition- BMW could cause something like this to happen by dropping AWD, making the sport suspension standard, and dropping the AT in favor of only a MT or SMG /DSG.
 
I wonder what that would do to BMW's business model, and competitiveness in the marketplace.
 
If, for example, BMW did drop AWD, then my guess is people who want that would buy an AWD Audi or Infiniti, maybe Lexus, before they would consider a RWD BMW.
 
Bruce
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Re: AWD performance enhancement in X6 [bruceomega] by circlew
Dec 21, 2007 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: bruceomega (Dec 21, 2007 7:09 am)

If, for example, BMW did drop AWD, then my guess is people who want that would buy an AWD Audi or Infiniti, maybe Lexus, before they would consider a RWD BMW.
 
Exactly. They are ADDING all wheel drive to more and more models. No worries about that ever happening.
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Re: AWD performance enhancement in X6 [circlew] by kdshapiro
Dec 22, 2007 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 21, 2007 8:16 am)

In this market, they would commit business suicide by not offering AWD. The handwriting is on the wall in this segment. For the upper segments such as the 550 and 750 it an interesting proposition. My guess is all mainstream manufacturers will be offering AWD across their entire product line.
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Re: AWD performance enhancement in X6 [kdshapiro] by circlew
Dec 22, 2007 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Dec 22, 2007 6:44 am)

KDS, agree 100%. The trend will not be the opposite.
 
Although a huge problem for others, I see nothing wrong with AWD. I can do wonders with this car and not in the least bothered by the different steering feel. I have no problem with RWD and I have been driving 3,500-3,800 lb. RWD/FWD cars for the last 20 years now but this car is unbelievably better compared to the past premium US brands. Yes, the CTS is finally a contender but I can't look at the thing! I should have tried an E46 a few years back but I never would have opted for the E36 since it was too small for me. My favorite past BMW is the 635i but the 2003 M5 still a beautiful machine to me. So, as you can see, the bloated 3'er fits my weight class!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: AWD performance enhancement in X6 [circlew] by xeye
Dec 22, 2007 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 22, 2007 9:27 am)

I've been away from the forums for a few weeks as I felt I needed a life after dark, which is around 4:15 PM here in the Northeast. Speaking of which, we've had three snowstorms within a week. In all, over 20" of snow.
 
We have a '95 318ti RWD (I think you call it an E46?) and a 2007 335 xi (E90?). We had both cars pulled way forward in a 75' driveway to allow for the plow guy. Well, the plow guy hadn't appeared by morning, so we decided to move the cars out of the way. The 318ti was "fronted in" and the 335xi was backed in (like it makes any difference!).
 
I shoveled my way to the 335xi door, climbed in and drove out like it was mid-summer. (This was over 10" of unplowed snow.) I have 225 45R17 all-season tires on all corners. It really was no problem. No slippage, no DSC warning.
 
Then I tried my wife's 318ti. Even with the "dry" spot where my car was, the RWD 318ti slipped and spun (with Toyo snows at all 4 corners) like a wild-car. I had to rock it and rev it high between R and 2nd to eventually get it out, not without risk to person and property.
 
I have been repeatedly amazed by the handling and power on tap of the 335xi. When I put the hammer down, it reminds me of driving my first motorcycle and realizing that I better hang on tight lest the vehicle take offf on it's own.
 
As long as I'm in the Northeast, I doubt I'll ever go back to RWD, not when I can get the power, handling and worry-free driving in any conditions.
 
Having said that, I'd like to give my wife the 335xi, and get the M3 for myself next year. Maybe they'll deliver the M3 with AWD (GASP!!!!). I would love it, but I'm not sure how AWD would handle 414 hp.
 
AWD rocks!

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