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Chevy S10 - GMC S15 and Sonoma Brake Issues

25 messages,  Last post on Oct 07, 2009 at 9:42 AM

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Re: Brake Problems [gonogo] by philscbx
Nov 14, 2007 (12:54 am)
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Replying to: gonogo (Nov 13, 2007 9:10 am)

The information is for the professional crowd.
78% of all vehicles on the road still use drum brakes.
The information is for those with them to take advantage of 4 wheel brakes vs only 2 wheel brakes.
 
All brake systems regardless of design are made to function with 4 wheel brakes on every car, pickup, etc
 
Now add to the equation, 40 ton semi's.
I do these as well, for 35 years. If these brake shoes are not adjusted every week, they get so out of phase that the anti skid will not work.
 
 Auto adjusters have advanced further on these than the auto market.
 
You will fail inspection at the drop of a hat if they do not work properly, and maybe make final contact with that object.
 
This isn't rocket science.
There is no,,, what you claim as too much rear braking.
 
By default, it's never enough because of wear and no one checking.
This is too only make those aware WHY the shit doesn't work properly.
 
Rear braking is all preset at the master cylinder and a floating load sensor that sees how far the rear is loaded down on it's suspension.
 
It's not very smart to discount details that benefit people of what can be confirmed by any brake system engineer.
 
Your welcome to take the entire post to any brake specialist that does high performance braking systems vs Junk Yard Dogs that care less if there were any brakes.
 
Maybe your style of high tech is a stick out the hole in the floor against the tire. Gotta start somewhere I guess. Some started this bare foot.
 
Take 100 cars or trucks with 50,000 miles on them, with drum brakes, and hit the brakes to lock them up at even 30 mph in the dirt.
 
I'll bet you 5g's only the front make a skid mark. That's 2 wheel Brakes Captain, and is the whole point.
 
It might be winded to a point, but 89% of the people on here do not do brake systems as a paying profession. People that have no clue how or why stuff works can't get the information, because they no idea what to look for.
 
Just like you wanting to know about a lobotomy, where would you start?
 
Everyone knows what it's like towing a trailer with brakes vs no brakes.
That's the main difference.
He who stops first wins.
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4 DISC VS 2 DRUM by philscbx
Nov 14, 2007 (1:22 am)
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The advantages so out perform 2 disc vs 4 disc.
 
1] Never have to adjust disc brakes ever.
2] They always work
3] They are self cleaning
4] They are used more and more from Semi's on down, because it's flat out safer, less maintenance,
5] All aircraft use them from the heavies at 450,000 lbs , to small single place.
5] My Sonoma has 4 wheel disc, it's flawless. All high performance machinery has disc brakes. It's Retarded to use drum brakes from 100 year old designs.
6] Drum brakes can get wet and will never even slow you down with both feet on the pedal. That's why people died. That's how insane it is to use them still.
7] The only reason they still use them on the rear is it's base cost is about $10. There is no other reason.
 
8] You could survey 30,000 brake shops across the US to Holland, and not one person is going to argue the facts about 4 wheel disc brakes vs drum brake combos.
 
9] If you still disagree in some minor way, go for it. Let's see a You-Tube skid test of one vs the other. 100 w/drum, 100 w/disc.
Good luck..
 
Maybe F1 Racing should go back to drum.
Stop at any Motorcycle shop. What's on both wheels?
 
I think the General Public will have a better idea now when they get a little taste of reality.
 
Sorta like someone discovering, and tells you not to eat the Yellow Snow.
 
You end up thanking them in the end, even if you didn't believe him at first.
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Re: 4 DISC VS 2 DRUM [philscbx] by gonogo
Nov 14, 2007 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: philscbx (Nov 14, 2007 1:22 am)

Rear brakes have self adjusters, it has been over 40 years since I have needed to adjust rear brakes. My 99 Sonoma 53 K, never have adjusted the rear, same pads and shoes.
 Have rear disc on my car, pads are half the size and half the thickness, why, they don't want you too swap ends. I will admit they look cool, LOL.
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bleeding brakes,whats a easy way? by chris112
Nov 18, 2007 (5:30 am)
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i have a 1993 gmc sonoma brakes are spongy.help!
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1990 Chevy Truck Brakes Locking... by smitty24
Jan 05, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Front passenger brake will not release like it should. It makes the truck drag and the rotor and pads run real hot. Also, when I changed the calipers and pads and bled the brakes, I had low flow out of the bleeder. I have better flow out of the drivers side. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks...
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Re: 1990 Chevy Truck Brakes Locking... [smitty24] by gonogo
Jan 06, 2008 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: smitty24 (Jan 05, 2008 1:19 pm)

Sounds like bad hose. If wheel rotates easy after opening bleeder, you need a new hose.
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Re: Brake Problems [philscbx] by sdrawkcab
Jun 13, 2008 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: philscbx (Nov 13, 2007 2:35 am)

I have a 2003 s-10 w/ front disc brakes & rear drum brakes. Recently, I have noticed a vibration about half the time when I brake. I checked the front brakes, and they showed almost completely even wear. My dad thought it might be the ABS system rapidly switching from brake to brake, but it shouldn't provide a noticeable vibration like that. Any suggestions for what might be the problem?
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Re: 1990 Chevy Truck Brakes Locking... [smitty24] by jendelman
Jun 17, 2008 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: smitty24 (Jan 05, 2008 1:19 pm)

I have the same vehicle (1990 GMC S15) with exactly the same symptoms, passenger caliper was slow to release, changed both calipers and found lower flow on the passenger side then the drivers side. Did your situation turn out to be a clogged line?
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GMC Sonoma 92 greasing front wheel bearings by pilsner1
Feb 27, 2009 (8:57 am)
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GMC Sonoma 92 greasing front wheel bearings by pilsner1
Feb 26, 2009 (2:53 pm)
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92 GMC Sonoma 4x4 automatic v6 front wheel starts squeaking when driving on hills. Stops when the brakes are applied.
I took the caps off of wheel and the inside is rusty. Do I just apply grease to it? If so what is a good method. Do you have to remove the tire first?

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