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Acura MDX v. Honda Pilot

50 messages,  Last post on Jul 06, 2009 at 7:24 AM

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What is this discussion about? Acura MDX, Honda Pilot, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Correction to prior post (#13) [dfwhonda] by crvjoe
Feb 04, 2008 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: dfwhonda (Feb 03, 2008 5:51 am)

I have just purchased a 2008 EX-L with navigation. It does have voice recognition. It also has a rear camera that comes on the nav screen when you are in reverse. I looked at both cars and I did not see any difference in the nav systems other than the Bluetooth connection for a phone that the Pilot lacks.
 
The main selling point for me was that the Pilot runs on regular while the MDX has to use preminum.
 
Hope this helps
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Thanks love2driveinct and crvjoe by dfwhonda
Feb 05, 2008 (3:06 am)
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Thanks for the input on the Pilot vs. used MDX. I'll probably make my decision in a couple of weeks.
 
The premium fuel requirement of the MDX is certainly a negative from my perspective, but I may overlook it to get some of the little things that the MDX provides that the Honda Pilot does not (although I also wish the MDX had the Variable Cylinder Management that the 08 FWD Pilots have).
 
If anyone else has any other thoughts, I would still appreciate them.
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Re: Thanks love2driveinct and crvjoe [dfwhonda] by mecheng1
Feb 05, 2008 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: dfwhonda (Feb 05, 2008 3:06 am)

I think some of us are stuck in our youthful days when premium gas was 20% more expensive than regular. Do your own math but I bet the 25-cent extra for premium adds up to -atmost- $4 per tankful.....even filling up once-a-week "only" requires $200/year It is real money but - is it seriously a deal breaker for the MDX as some have said on this forum?
 
I needed a vehicle in 2001 so I bought the MDX but I would have probably bought the Pilot....had it been available. Personal preference. The NAV system in my 2001 (made for Acura by Alpine) has paid for itself over the years.
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Re: Thanks love2driveinct and crvjoe [mecheng1] by love2driveinct
Feb 05, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Feb 05, 2008 11:12 am)

And who says that you have to use Premium, anyway?? We put only 87 in our MDX. We have experimented under various driving conditions, temperatures, etc, and the vehicle drives the same & gets the same mileage whether we put 87, 89, or 91 in it. Is there something I'm missing here?
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Re: Thanks love2driveinct and crvjoe [love2driveinct] by dfwhonda
Feb 06, 2008 (3:31 am)
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Replying to: love2driveinct (Feb 05, 2008 7:03 pm)

That's a good point. I generally try to follow instructions for type of gas, but I do recall that I would not put premium gas in my 2001 MDX if the cost was more than $2 per gallon. I know...pretty random.
 
I have a lead on a nice 2006 MDX in TX, and since this car isn't for me but for my wife, I think she will probably end up choosing the MDX for the luxuries it offers over the Pilot (as well as for the styling, which is still much better imho than the blocky Pilot).
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Re: we have both vehicles [love2driveinct] by scottm123
Feb 06, 2008 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: love2driveinct (Jan 13, 2008 11:12 am)

I have an 06 MDX Touring (Nav/RES) as well.
I did a lot of testing with the car and found that with 93 octane, we got approx 5-6 MPG better than when running 87 Octane.
I tested this on my commute to work, which is the same route, same traffic.. everyday. The commute is about 70% Highway, 30% city
I ran with 93 for a few months and with 87 for a few months. I tested this in the late Spring to be sure that winter fuel blends didn't get in the way.
 
I suppose it depends on your commute and style of driving, but after doing the tests and calculating MPG by fuel in/miles out, we found that the MDX does better on the higher octane fuel.
Yes, you spend more at the pump, but with the miles out being higher, you're actually saving money.
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Re: we have both vehicles [scottm123] by mecheng1
Feb 06, 2008 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Feb 06, 2008 5:46 am)

That makes a lot of sense. The PCM of the MDX will use the input from the vehicle's sensors (knock sensor, etc.) to adjust the timing of the vehicle to compensate for different fuel blends - therefore using regular gas doesn't actually "harm" the engine.
 
Perhaps using the lower octane does, as Scott has proven, prevent the engine from operating at it most efficient point, even at lower points on the power curve. Hence, owners manual's that recommend premium verses those that require premium. There are some compression ratios that require 93 Octane to prevent engine damage.
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Re: we have both vehicles [mecheng1] by chrism124
Feb 06, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Feb 06, 2008 11:46 am)

mecheng1, you are correct, the PCM/ECU will adjust the timing based on the type of fuel being used. While regular gas will work in most cars where premium is recommended, the offset is a decrease in gas mileage and horsepower (HP).
 
Personally speaking, if I can afford to buy or lease a new MDX, with an average price of $42k, paying the extra $210 per year for premium fuel shouldn’t be an issue. The extra cost would be less once the better gas mileage, with premium fuel, is factored.
 
Just my .02.
 
Regards,
NHman
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Re: we have both vehicles [chrism124] by love2driveinct
Feb 06, 2008 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: chrism124 (Feb 06, 2008 12:45 pm)

Hmmm... doesn't sound like my "testing" was very scientific, lol...
 
But I think the point of all this, is that with only a couple hundred dollars a year difference, it needn't be a major deciding factor in which vehicle to get.

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