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Acura MDX v. Honda Pilot

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#40 of 49
Re: MDX vs Pilot and Financial Incentives [pilotsearcher] by citivas
Aug 29, 2008 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: pilotsearcher (Aug 27, 2008 11:44 am)

I'd be guessing on the financing so I'll leave that for someone better suited... In terms of evaluating other than cost, off-hand:
 
 * How important is seating capacity to you? The Pilot seats 8 pretty comfortably. The Acura seats 4 very comfortably and 3 not at all comfortably (as in not practical for most adults unless you want to bend your neck sideway the whole time). It's also easier to access the third row seating in the Pilot and there is more leg room (which is adjustable).
 
 * The Pilot has more cargo capacity.
 
 * In theory the Acura should have a better residual value but it doesn’t at the moment. Perhaps the ’09 will.
 
 * The Acura drives nicer, no question: More responsive, zippier, better suspension, etc.
 
 * The interior of the Acura is much better appointed. Many people have correctly complained about the obvious plastic finishes on even the high-end Pilot – they don’t even attempt fake wood.
 
 * Acura will have 1 year more warranty and probably more white glove treatment at the dealer when serving. When I had a Lexus they wasted the car after every visit and offered me a loaner. Not so much with Toyota, for example…
 
 * The Pilot has a little better MPG. It has variable cylinder management (i.e. it can save fuel by shutting some off when not taxing the engine). And the Pilot doesn’t require premium fuel like the Acura.
 
 * The Pilot has iPod integration into the nav screen controls and voice control. There is a rumor the ’09 MDX will but the dealers I spoke to said no and it definitely isn’t in the ’08.
 
 * The Acura has an option for real-time traffic re-routing in major markets. It requires a monthly subscription. Other than the iPod and traffic differences, the navs and audio systems in both vehicles is identical (at least when comparing to the Touring Pilot).
 
 * The Touring Pilot has a numerous standard features that are always options in the Acura, such as the tow package and hitch. So make sure to factor that into your cost comparison if they are important to you.
 
 * The exterior stylings are very different. Chances are if you are leaning toward an Acura you will not like the exterior of the Pilot. It was designed to appeal to people who liked the classic SUV boxiness. I personally don’t care for it but the other features won me over. That said, I am indifferent to the exterior of the MDX – its fine, but it doesn’t wow me either. I prefer the exterior of the CX-9 or the XC90 myself.
 
In my experience with competitive bidding there is about a $5-6K difference in price between the 4WD Pilot Touring and an ’08 MDX w/ Tech and Ent (though before the optional towing, etc.). It makes the MDX tempting. If seating had not been a priority for me I would have strongly considered it. If seating and cargo capacity is a priority, it is a total no-brainer decision for the Pilot.
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by citivas
Aug 29, 2008 (10:19 am)
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To clarify my residual value comment, I meant proportionately. It doesn't hold a percentage of its value better, at least in the lease terms being offered right now. Obviously it holds a higher absolutely dollar value as it started higher...
#42 of 49
MDX vs. X5 vs. GX470 by amamtani
Sep 08, 2008 (9:27 pm)
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I have just started shopping for a SUV. Along with the obvious criteria of handling, safety and price, I also care about the third row seat. Specifically, I want a SUV that can seat 7 adults, but do not want to buy one of the oversized SUVs (like Escalade or Navigator).
 
Can the folks on this forum please offer their insights to help me decide between the three models?
 
I have driven the MDX and really like it. I did not drive the X5 as it seemed like the 3rd row seats were extremely tight - even more so than the MDX (is that true or just my imagination?).
 
I also like the Lexus GX470, but don't know enough about it yet. I plan to drive test it soon. I also drove the Audi Q7 but, to be honest, didn't find it to be worth the price.
 
Thanks in advance.
#43 of 49
Help me decide by dapnkap
Feb 11, 2009 (1:32 pm)
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Here are my options:
2006 MDX Touring w/NAV and RES, 35K miles $20,895
2006 MDX Touring w/NAV and RES, 28K miles $23,887
2006 Pilot EX-L w/RES, 26K miles $20,711
2008 Pilot SE w/RES, 19K miles $23,980
 
Thanks
#44 of 49
Re: Help me decide [dapnkap] by jason330i
Feb 12, 2009 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: dapnkap (Feb 11, 2009 1:32 pm)

you get alot more with the acura. but 4wd + premium gas and general cost of ownership will be higher.
 
i had to make the same choice and went with the honda, but it was tough cause i really liked HID lights, memory seats, and having nav and res together.
#45 of 49
Re: Help me decide [jason330i] by upstatedoc
Feb 13, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: jason330i (Feb 12, 2009 11:18 am)

'06 MDX does not have HID's, rather "projector" headlights, they switched to HID's w/ the '07 MY. There is a lot of controversy over whether you can use regular in a "premium only" vehicle. I used premium in my '04 MDX for most of it's life, I recently started using 87 oct because it was $1.50/gal. Didn't notice much difference mileage or performance wise.
As far as cost of ownership, many Acura owners have maintenence done at the Honda shop where its generally cheaper, however most honda shops will not do warranty work.
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Re: Help me decide [upstatedoc] by jason330i
Mar 05, 2009 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: upstatedoc (Feb 13, 2009 1:52 pm)

wow, all this time i assumed the mdx had true HID headlights. isn't it suppose to be a luxury brand? and doesn't the older model TL's have HID?
 
still miss the memory seats though.
#47 of 49
by enforcer
Mar 05, 2009 (11:04 pm)
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We bought an MDX 3 months ago and could not be more pleased.
 
We looked at the Pilot v. MDX v. Highlander. The Toyota salespeople were incredibly lame and the car looked cheap inside, plus the discounts were pretty mediocre (almost as pricey as MDX which had huge rebates) so the Highlander was soon eliminated.
 
We also drove the Pilot but it just wasn't as nice. For $3k more we got a much much nicer car - better interior, nicer lines, better features - there really is no comparison. If you don't have the extra $3-5 grand then I guess you have to go with the cheaper model. But if you are buying new and financing with .9 or 2.9% this is really an easy choice.
 
Also check out April 2009 consumer reports - the MDX gets a much higher rating than the Pilot - in fact the MDX is highest in its class. And the whole Acura experience is so much better.
#48 of 49
Re: Help me decide [jason330i] by upstatedoc
Mar 06, 2009 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: jason330i (Mar 05, 2009 8:25 am)

'07 thru '09 MDX's have HID's as well as '04 thru '09 TL's.
#49 of 49
08/09 PIlot vs. 08/09 MDX by x5killer
May 06, 2009 (1:43 am)
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the pilot just got redesigned in 08 right or was it 09. the new redesign is decent but it it is stilla little big and boxy.
 
some ppl say the pilot is the same as the mdx for less money but all they really share is the chassis. the pilot is maybe a little bigger so maybe you get some more room but the MDX is one of the larger mid size suvs as it is and your getting a good bit more luxury sportier fun to drive with it so to me its a case where its totally worth the little extra in price. Its not like it sthe same car with an acura badge on it for more money.
 
you do get more. the pilot to me is just too big and boxy and drives like a truck. The MDX is the perfect combo of the sportier car like mid size suvs but still feels more truck like then say the RX or other simiiar mid size suvs. for me its the perfect larger side for mid size suvs but not too large like the pilot or others. sporty enough but also truck like enough and not so car like as some of the mid size suvs based on a car platform. mine as well get a sedan then while to me the mdx is one of the perfect combos in the size and sporty drive dept. there are others that will feel a little lighter and sportier to drive but others like the pilot that will be less sporty so again for me the MDX is the perfect combination best of both worlds.

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