Article Comments - 2007 BMW 335i vs. 2007 Lexus IS 350

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Article comments for Comparison Test: 2007 BMW 335i vs. 2007 Lexus IS 350 - When we matched these cars against each other in 2006, the newly redesigned 306-hp Lexus IS 350 ran away from the 255-hp BMW 330i with a quicker acceleration to 60 mph by more than a full second. On the other hand, that BMW outmaneuvered the Lexus in every objective and subjective handling category. (more)

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#89 of 138 Re: Article [pat] by louiswei Jun 15, 2007 (7:04 am)
Replying to: pat (Jun 15, 2007 6:52 am) Any more comments on the article linked above? pat, I did, more than once but apparently it's kind of pointless since Inside Line can't be here to defend it. The article didn't reveal anything that we haven't already know. The 335i is fractions faster, has better handling and is a better 3-series than the IS350 (kindda obvious here... ). Also, since the 330i won out against the IS350 last year why would the comparison be any different this time with the new-and-improved 335i? However, I would still like to find out how can a "comparably equipped" IS350 be more expensive than the 335i? Replies to this message: pat (Jun 15, 2007 7:11 am) james31278 (Jun 16, 2007 12:07 pm)
#90 of 138 Re: Article [louiswei] by pat HOST Jun 15, 2007 (7:11 am)
Replying to: louiswei (Jun 15, 2007 7:04 am) I think they read these discussions (which is one reason it's good to stay focused on the subject) and they do comment sometimes. You can always contact the editors directly, though, through the email and/or blog links with the byline. You could send Chris Walton an invitation to stop by! Replies to this message: james31278 (Jun 16, 2007 12:07 pm)
#91 of 138 Re: To each his own [louiswei] - Golf Analogy [habitat1] by adfam Jun 15, 2007 (11:29 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Jun 13, 2007 5:47 am) I really can't explain it... My wife and I share a 2006 IS350 (AT of course) and a 2003 330i with a 5-speed manual. The IS350 is a great car -- fast, quiet and comfortable with lots of bells and whistles (nav, reverse camera, bluetooth, etc). The 330i is markedly slower in a straight line and much less 'equipped', but provides a joy of driving the newer IS can't match. I love the luxury, reliability and service associated with Lexus but, honestly, both of us would rather have the keys to the BMW when we leave for work in the morning. It's worth the extra $ every now and then to keep it running like a champ.
#92 of 138 Re: Article [pat] by james31278 Jun 16, 2007 (12:07 pm)
Replying to: pat (Jun 15, 2007 7:11 am) I'm with the 335i.
#93 of 138 BMW quality by diablo_dude Jun 16, 2007 (8:38 pm)
I recently decided to trade my 328i in for a lexus is350. I didn't even consider the BMW due to all the issues and cost going into the 328i almost every few months. The BMW does have a certain intangible ride that most car mfg try to emulate without success. However, in my opinion, BMW suffers from reliability issues. I noticed all the posts comparing the new 335i against the is350 and how the BMW is a couple of a tenths quicker than the Lexus, etc. But have you all seen this article, http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=120061 This has got to be embarrassing for BMW. Sure it rides like it's on rails and might be faster than most of it's competitors but BMW needs to start addressing it's quality issues. I have seen the old BMW 2002s riding around and those things were built like tanks and drove BMW reputation for quality, handling, etc. but these recent generation BMWs seem to tout the handling but suffer on quality. So my decision was simple, if I wanted a ride that handled like a go cart on steroids (not a knock, I like the handling) then the BMW was the obvious choice but if I wanted a balance of performance and reliability, then Lexus. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Jun 17, 2007 5:00 am) louiswei (Jun 17, 2007 5:58 am) circlew (Jun 17, 2007 10:16 am) kdshapiro (Jun 17, 2007 3:14 pm) diablo_dude (Jun 17, 2007 5:51 pm) and 3 more... diablo_dude (Jun 17, 2007 6:03 pm) kdshapiro (Jun 17, 2007 6:50 pm) and 4 more... Mr_Shiftright (Jun 17, 2007 6:54 pm) and 1 more...
#94 of 138 Re: BMW quality [diablo_dude] by kdshapiro Jun 17, 2007 (5:00 am)
Replying to: diablo_dude (Jun 16, 2007 8:38 pm) I don't know the story behind that, but I'm suspicious because it was an Infiniti sponsored event. It could also be related to the oil-cooler issue, which BMW has since addressed. Lexus no doubt build rock solid cars as a manufacturer, but you never know with any individual car. click here for Lexus vs. BMW maintenance Life is too short to try worry about and try predict the maintenance cycle of a car before you buy it. Replies to this message: louiswei (Jun 17, 2007 5:58 am) circlew (Jun 17, 2007 10:16 am) kdshapiro (Jun 17, 2007 3:14 pm) diablo_dude (Jun 17, 2007 5:51 pm) circlew (Jun 18, 2007 3:40 am) and 2 more... diablo_dude (Jun 17, 2007 6:03 pm) kdshapiro (Jun 17, 2007 6:50 pm) diablo_dude (Jun 17, 2007 8:42 pm) and 3 more... Mr_Shiftright (Jun 17, 2007 6:54 pm) diablo_dude (Jun 17, 2007 8:13 pm)
#95 of 138 Re: BMW quality [kdshapiro] by louiswei Jun 17, 2007 (5:58 am)
Replying to: kdshapiro (Jun 17, 2007 5:00 am) Life is too short to try worry about and try predict the maintenance cycle of a car before you buy it. If one is over 60 and loaded. Yeah... For any other people, reliability is still a top concern while purchasing a car. Especially in a case where the car will be the ONLY car, like mine. I personally don't think there is that much difference between Lexus and BMW reliability. Lexus might be slightly better but it's not like BMW is much worse either. For me, the reliability issue between these 2 vehicles is moot.
#96 of 138 Re: BMW quality [kdshapiro] by circlew Jun 17, 2007 (10:16 am)
Replying to: kdshapiro (Jun 17, 2007 5:00 am) KD, I agree completely, Life is too short to WORRY about anything! These 2 cars are different enough to attract the respective audiences. Maintenance/Repair of this level vehicle as well as the difference in mpg is NOT big enough to sway the choice of perspective buyers. The perception might favor the Lexus but the reality is that the high tech repairs will be very approximate. Regards, OW Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Jun 17, 2007 3:14 pm) diablo_dude (Jun 17, 2007 5:51 pm) circlew (Jun 18, 2007 3:40 am) habitat1 (Jun 18, 2007 4:26 am) and 1 more...
#97 of 138 Re: BMW quality [circlew] by kdshapiro Jun 17, 2007 (3:14 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Jun 17, 2007 10:16 am) And to add to that... My guess is out of warranty repairs for similiar items cost about the same between these two manufacturers.
#98 of 138 Re: BMW quality [circlew] by diablo_dude Jun 17, 2007 (5:51 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Jun 17, 2007 10:16 am) Well if that's your philosophy in everything you do then you should go out and empty your savings, get a huge loan and buy the most expensive vehicle because as you say......life is too short. My point is if you spend the kind of money on these cars then don't you expect the mfg to be concerned with quality? It's kind of amusing that you would reply to the question of quality with philosophy. You then qualify your statement by stating that tech repairs will be approx for both cars, perhaps the cost may be the same but why don't you measure the frequency of which car is in the shop and then add cumulative cost for each. There's a reason why Toyota with what some/many call bland stying, design, lack of soul, etc is poised to becoming the biggest car mfg in the world. Take a poll and see if what you say is true that maintenance/repair of these vehicles is not big enough to sway the choice. I would guess that many people will tell you otherwise. Replies to this message: circlew (Jun 18, 2007 3:40 am) habitat1 (Jun 18, 2007 4:26 am) circlew (Jun 18, 2007 7:08 am)