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#158 of 164 Re: city mileage 2 [steve_] by acdii May 06, 2009 (9:11 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Mar 20, 2009 9:24 pm) The tips II one was mostly good, the only gripe I would have with their tips is the tailgate down on the Tundra. Mythbusters flat out busted that one, Twice. The tailgate down actually causes more drag on a pickup and lowers fuel economy. The fact they got a slight improvement could have been due to other factors, such as a tail wind. When the Myth guys tested, they used identical trucks, drove exactly the same, with exactly the same amount of fuel and drove until they ran out of gas, the one with the tailgate down ran out of gas first. Then to be doubly sure of their findings, they re ran the test again in one truck with a host of different gauges, the most important being the fuel flow meter. Again, the tests showed more fuel was used with the tailgate down. I have an F350 Dually and tried it my self, and sure enough, tailgate down I use more fuel, then again, the tests were done with long bed trucks. It the test on the tundra had the short 6' bed, drag may not be such a big deal.   The drag comes into play when the tailgate is no longer there to create a pressure bubble in the bed that reduces the drag behind the cab, so there is a more linear airflow. When that bubble is not there, you get a lot of drag directly behind the cab. You should see the mess it can make when the back window is open and the tailgate is down in the truck, if there are any leaves or dust in the bed, it winds up inside the truck.   Other than that, pretty good results in that article. The main thing you see in both, use common sense and you will get better MPG. Since I have a Hybrid, a Pickup and an SUV, I can pretty much tell you that everything in the articles, with the exception of the tailgate, is true. My F350 if driven with an egg between the pedal an my foot will get 18 MPG. That is in an 8000 pound monster brick of a truck with 6 wheels. Replies to this message: tidester (May 06, 2009 10:16 am) steve_ (May 06, 2009 9:07 pm) acdii (May 07, 2009 12:33 pm)
#159 of 164 Re: city mileage 2 [acdii] by tidester HOST May 06, 2009 (10:16 am)
Replying to: acdii (May 06, 2009 9:11 am) I saw that episode! They also showed wind tunnel testing of a model to visualize the "bubble effect."   tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper
#160 of 164 Re: city mileage 2 [acdii] by steve_ HOST May 06, 2009 (9:07 pm)
Replying to: acdii (May 06, 2009 9:11 am) I remember being a bit surprised about the poorer showing the Edmunds testers had with the tailgate up, since I've also heard for a few years that the tailgate down trick hurts more than it helps. Those net things you sometimes see in place of tailgates probably hurt worse of all.   My quibble with that test was with the roof racks. I only lose about 1 mpg hauling canoes, but I guess they are shaped better than hunks of luggage up there. I do take my racks off when I'm not hauling stuff up there.   I usually manage to beat the EPA estimates in my rides. The egg trick is good, and I like to try to anticipate stop lights. In town I note the flashing of crosswalk signals to give me an idea if I can beat the yellow or if I should just coast in gear* and let the light change on me.   (*Coasting in gear uses less gas than coasting in neutral thanks to the way fuel injection works. Go figure.) Replies to this message: acdii (May 07, 2009 12:33 pm)
#161 of 164 Re: city mileage 2 [steve_] by acdii May 07, 2009 (12:33 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (May 06, 2009 9:07 pm) So far my mileage on the VC is holding pretty steady 21 MPG, actually had it up to 21.6 for a while today, but that damn traffic lights and putting people doing 5 under for some reason hurt my overall. My average drive is between 35 and 60 MPH through suburbs and county highways. If I can catch lights and not get stuck behind someone doing 5 under or hitting the brakes constantly, I get pretty good MPG.
#162 of 164 Veracruz SE AWD by rmhockman May 08, 2009 (5:34 am)
I have had my Veracruz, silver with black leather, for two years now and have accumulated 20,000 miles. It runs like new and looks,inside and out, like the day I got it, even the tires show little wear. (keep them inflated to 35psi)   I can usually expect about 25 or 26 on the highway and when pushed hard like on my recent trip to Daytona and back, 2400 miles of hard driving on mostly interstate roads, maybe down to 23 or 24. This is a heavy vehicle (4600 lbs.) so don't expect it to act like a much lighter Honda CRV. Remember the faster you drive the less gas mileage you can expect.                                             R M H Replies to this message: pinevalleyite (May 08, 2009 8:13 am) acdii (May 08, 2009 11:27 am)
#163 of 164 Re: Veracruz SE AWD [rmhockman] by pinevalleyite May 08, 2009 (8:13 am)
Replying to: rmhockman (May 08, 2009 5:34 am) I've been playing around with the trip meter button (haven't read all my manuals yet) and it seems in one setting I see 16.5 avg mpg and at another setting I see 21.6 avg mpg. What gives? Replies to this message: acdii (May 08, 2009 11:27 am)
#164 of 164 Re: Veracruz SE AWD [pinevalleyite] by acdii May 08, 2009 (11:27 am)
Replying to: pinevalleyite (May 08, 2009 8:13 am) Use the dash readout as reference only. Hand calculate to get the most accurate readings over several tanks. For 3 tanks of 87 I add the miles, add the gallons, and divide total miles by total gallons to get the real average MPG. I have records for every tank fill with miles, plus I know how many miles were on when I bought it and how many gallons were in the car when delivered so for lifetime I can figure out the overall MPG, haven't done it yet, soon though.

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