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#27 of 32 No Chance [budh] by donna388 Oct 16, 2008 (5:14 pm)
Replying to: budh (Oct 16, 2008 5:06 pm) "But is there some chance Hyundai may have fixed this for the 2009 models?"   In a word NO! All shocks still have the same part numbers beginning 10/20/07. Replies to this message: oskidunker1 (Oct 17, 2008 6:34 am) carolinabob (Oct 17, 2008 6:46 am) cobrazera (Oct 18, 2008 3:22 am) carolinabob (Oct 23, 2008 10:24 am) oskidunker1 (Oct 24, 2008 2:16 pm)
#28 of 32 Re: No Chance [donna388] by oskidunker1 Oct 17, 2008 (6:34 am)
Replying to: donna388 (Oct 16, 2008 5:14 pm) I am guessing because I have never heard of a shock only lasting 5000 miles. Replies to this message: carolinabob (Oct 17, 2008 6:46 am) cobrazera (Oct 18, 2008 3:22 am) carolinabob (Oct 23, 2008 10:24 am) oskidunker1 (Oct 24, 2008 2:16 pm)
#29 of 32 Re: No Chance [oskidunker1] by carolinabob Oct 17, 2008 (6:46 am)
Replying to: oskidunker1 (Oct 17, 2008 6:34 am) It's not just the shocks, it's the whole suspension system. That's why the shocks alone cannot solve the problem, unless Hyundai comes up with a better one than they have now.     If you can find a rental or used one with 5,000 miles on it, try it. Be sure to go on back roads, city streets and so forth where dips, rises and uneven pavement exist. It the ride does not bother you, go for it as everything else is excellent - at least on mine.
#30 of 32 Re: No Chance [oskidunker1] by cobrazera Oct 18, 2008 (3:22 am)
Replying to: oskidunker1 (Oct 17, 2008 6:34 am) I have seen shocks with 5000 miles fail, but usually with evidence of a blown seal and visible oil leakage. With no evidence of oil leakage, IMO, the shock has not " worn out ", but has reached its normal condition ( after a breakin, which could last up to 500 miles or more ).   If one assumes that the quality control on these " bad " shocks allows a failure of even 1 per 100 shocks, the odds of having both front shocks fail, and then having the shocks replaced twice, and then those failing - is astronomical.   I contend that the suspension is working as designed, and no amount of replacement with essentially the same shock is going to fix it. The shocks, given the symptoms described ( floating, wallowing ) appear to have been designed with insufficient return damping and are unable to properly dampen/control the springs. One person suggested that a stiffer spring might help, but IMO, that would only make the problem worse. The solution would be a new shock with stiffer damping characteristics ( unavailable as yet ), the coilover aftermarket suspension, or live with it. Replies to this message: carolinabob (Oct 23, 2008 10:24 am) oskidunker1 (Oct 24, 2008 2:16 pm)
#31 of 32 Re: No Chance [cobrazera] by carolinabob Oct 23, 2008 (10:24 am)
Replying to: cobrazera (Oct 18, 2008 3:22 am) I have chosen option 3 - live with it. At least until I find something I like enough better to trade.    It is not the shocks, but the whole suspension system is not right for this particular car. R&D and testing missed the boat somewhere. That is why I am waiting a couple of years before even considering the Genesis.
#32 of 32 Re: No Chance [cobrazera] by oskidunker1 Oct 24, 2008 (2:16 pm)
Replying to: cobrazera (Oct 18, 2008 3:22 am) Then this is good news because if it does not get any worse, I can also live with it.

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