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Hyundai Azera vs Hyundai Sonata

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#23 of 32 Re: Conpare Azera with Sonata [budh] by cobrazera

Oct 15, 2008 (3:55 am)

Replying to: budh (Oct 14, 2008 4:16 pm)
recent posts from a few owners on how their new 640 shocks are not working out for them
It has been rehashed many times that the Azera suspension is not by any means "sporty", but that does not mean it is considered to be inadequate or junk by the vast majority of Azera owners. I'm sure that there are thousands of owners like myself that are quite pleased with our cars.
My '06 Azera ( 20K miles, and original shocks ) is a fabulous freeway cruiser, and the soft ride keeps me from being beaten up by the horrible backroads on which I drive. The car is driven at or slightly above the speed limit wherever it goes, and the suspension works just fine. Take a test drive in the car on the roads and speeds on which you will drive, then decide for yourself.
 
Richard

#24 of 32 Good Points by oskidunker1

Oct 16, 2008 (8:13 am)

Replying to: cobrazera (Oct 15, 2008 3:55 am)
Overall, I like the car. Seats are more comfortable than my Audi A6 (too hard). The high seat position has eliminated the leg pain I experienced in the A6. The car is quiter. It gets better gas milage. I like the Cruise control lay out better.The dealer service is far superior.The price was great.
 
 All that said, test driving this car will do you no good because the way it rides new is not the way it rides after 5000 miles. This is the damest thing I have ever heard of.95% of the time the ride is ok but if you drive allot over over passes, elevated roads or bridges you will be annoyed by the float and will be forced to drive no faster than 60 to keep control of the car.I can live with it if it does not get any worse.
 
Even if an after market shock were available , I would be reluctant to buy it until I had evidence that the Springs would not destroy them after 5000 miles.
 
 I would look at other cars if I were in the market now but I really don't know what could comapre. I hate small cars and anything big is too expensive.I bought the car to reduce my costs so I would not consider the Genesis.My brother in law bough one so I will report back on that because he drives allot of miles and will soon be beyond the 5000 mile barrier.

#25 of 32 Re: Good Points [oskidunker1] by budh

Oct 16, 2008 (6:06 pm)

Replying to: oskidunker1 (Oct 16, 2008 8:13 am)
But is there some chance Hyundai may have fixed this for the 2009 models?

#26 of 32 Lousy Shocks [oskidunker1] by donna388

Oct 16, 2008 (6:12 pm)

Replying to: oskidunker1 (Oct 16, 2008 8:13 am)
"Even if an after market shock were available , I would be reluctant to buy it until
I had evidence that the Springs would not destroy them after 5000 miles."
 
What makes you think that your poor quality shocks are being ruined by the front springs?

#27 of 32 No Chance [budh] by donna388

Oct 16, 2008 (6:14 pm)

Replying to: budh (Oct 16, 2008 6:06 pm)
"But is there some chance Hyundai may have fixed this for the 2009 models?"
 
In a word NO! All shocks still have the same part numbers beginning 10/20/07.

#28 of 32 Re: No Chance [donna388] by oskidunker1

Oct 17, 2008 (7:34 am)

Replying to: donna388 (Oct 16, 2008 6:14 pm)
I am guessing because I have never heard of a shock only lasting 5000 miles.

#29 of 32 Re: No Chance [oskidunker1] by carolinabob

Oct 17, 2008 (7:46 am)

Replying to: oskidunker1 (Oct 17, 2008 7:34 am)
It's not just the shocks, it's the whole suspension system. That's why the shocks alone cannot solve the problem, unless Hyundai comes up with a better one than they have now.
    If you can find a rental or used one with 5,000 miles on it, try it. Be sure to go on back roads, city streets and so forth where dips, rises and uneven pavement exist. It the ride does not bother you, go for it as everything else is excellent - at least on mine.

#30 of 32 Re: No Chance [oskidunker1] by cobrazera

Oct 18, 2008 (4:22 am)

Replying to: oskidunker1 (Oct 17, 2008 7:34 am)
I have seen shocks with 5000 miles fail, but usually with evidence of a blown seal and visible oil leakage. With no evidence of oil leakage, IMO, the shock has not " worn out ", but has reached its normal condition ( after a breakin, which could last up to 500 miles or more ).
 
If one assumes that the quality control on these " bad " shocks allows a failure of even 1 per 100 shocks, the odds of having both front shocks fail, and then having the shocks replaced twice, and then those failing - is astronomical.
 
I contend that the suspension is working as designed, and no amount of replacement with essentially the same shock is going to fix it. The shocks, given the symptoms described ( floating, wallowing ) appear to have been designed with insufficient return damping and are unable to properly dampen/control the springs. One person suggested that a stiffer spring might help, but IMO, that would only make the problem worse. The solution would be a new shock with stiffer damping characteristics ( unavailable as yet ), the coilover aftermarket suspension, or live with it.

#31 of 32 Re: No Chance [cobrazera] by carolinabob

Oct 23, 2008 (11:24 am)

Replying to: cobrazera (Oct 18, 2008 4:22 am)
I have chosen option 3 - live with it. At least until I find something I like enough better to trade.
   It is not the shocks, but the whole suspension system is not right for this particular car. R&D and testing missed the boat somewhere. That is why I am waiting a couple of years before even considering the Genesis.

#32 of 32 Re: No Chance [cobrazera] by oskidunker1

Oct 24, 2008 (3:16 pm)

Replying to: cobrazera (Oct 18, 2008 4:22 am)
Then this is good news because if it does not get any worse, I can also live with it.

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