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Re: Just a few thoughts [mf15]
by mf15
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Jul 08, 2007 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: mf15 (Jun 24, 2007 3:16 pm)
Went up to the Nissan and Acura and even Lincoln dealers today Sunday so I could look at colors without being bothered. Looked at milan and mkz, no thanks don't like the dash,reminds me too much of my sons 89 F250.
Liked the blue or sunset altima with charcoal interior
I guess I might have to live with the orange dash lights, but if I buy they could be changed to blue. Tl interior nicer than Altima but probably not worth the price difference to me. Pretty much ruled out the TSX for lack of torque although I love the car. As I was looking at the TL's
out in front of the Acura dealer I noticed one sitting up on blocks with no wheels, someone must have got the wheels last night.
The question is to wait on the 08 Accord, not sure I like the pictures of it on the web, but I am sure they will raise the bar mechanically and on the interior.
I have now checked online inventory of Altima barbones SL's
for about 50 miles out of Philly, perhaps one or two, I do not want navi. But the good thing is that the rebates have started on the Altima. Perhaps they want to get rid of the 07's before the 08's start to roll in, or they are not meeting sales goals, they still have not caught the Accord, let alone Camry.
Old Mike
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Re: Just a few thoughts [mf15]
by mf15
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Jul 08, 2007 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: mf15 (Jul 08, 2007 9:49 am)
Perhaps I spoke too soon, I see that there now is 1000 cash to dealer on the 07 TSX, so if you can get it at invoice -1000 that is 25761 +TTl, not bad. I guess will have to take it on one more test drive and really push hard on the pedal to get it to kick down then check the passing power at high speeds, will also take a tire pressure gauge and see if the tires are at 40 psig which might have made the bumps on my last test drive seem rock hard.
I also think the Altima once you add options is priced too high compared to camcords. So might be back to square 1 for a little while,still have time.
Will no more when the media embargo ends on Aug 21st for the 08 accord. Old Mike
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Re: Just a few thoughts [mf15]
by keithl
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Jul 08, 2007 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: mf15 (Jul 08, 2007 2:43 pm)
08 will be last year fo rthe current body styles of the TSX and TL, my guess is by May 08 the TSX will be replaced witht he 09 and then by October the TL gets replaced. I have driven TSX and TL, the TSX is a firmer and shoppier ride, but well controlled. I run my TL tires at 37 PSI and they still ride decent. The Altima is a little noisier on the road than the TL and a bit less behaved over the bumps, more jittery. But the Altima is a nice ride, very comfortable and the Bose blows the doors off the TL and TSX audio. The TL interior ergonomics are one of the best in any car I have seen, the guages and control layouts are nice and the flow of the center pod with the nav and controls is seamless and very pleasing to the eyes. The Altima guages are a tad cheapy looking. Also one thing I love about the TL that I have not seen on anything else is the way they light the guages. They are at full brightness when the headlights are off, then when you put the headlights on they are where ever you had them adjusted to and with a simple push button (during twilight) you can MAX the brightness then when it gets darker hit the button again and they go back. Guage lights shoudl not be a distraction at nitgh and many people run theirs too bright casuing them to take away from detail ont he road, I hate having to constantly adjust the guage brightness and the TL has the perfect solution.
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Re: Just a few thoughts [mf15]
by jaeger1
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Jul 09, 2007 (3:16 am)
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Replying to: mf15 (Jul 08, 2007 2:43 pm)
Just my opinion, but that $1,000 in your pocket isn't going to make the TSX any torquier. How many times have you test-driven it now and found the torque lacking each time? Having already ruled the car out for lack of torque, trying to talk yourself back into it because somebody dangled a $1k carrot in front of your nose seems like a recipe for buyers remorse to me.
Jaeger
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Re: Just a few thoughts [jaeger1]
by mf15
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Jul 09, 2007 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: jaeger1 (Jul 09, 2007 3:16 am)
Jaeger1: You are probably right, it seems that I am really looking for power over refinement at this price point.
I also see that there now is 1500 cash to dealer on the TL.
I stil have time and can wait to see what else develops, really dont think Tl will get any better but the Altima could have higher rebates even though Nissan has stated that they do not intend to use rebates much anymore.
Anyhow I have now looked about 100 miles out from Philly
found two blue SL's but with blond interior without tech package and I think one or two slate with charcoal interior.
Really would like the blue/charcoal. I keep telling myself
no grey/silver cars.
Old Mike
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Re: Just a few thoughts [mf15]
by jd10013
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Jul 09, 2007 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: mf15 (Jul 09, 2007 6:12 am)
the Altima could have higher rebates even though Nissan has stated that they do not intend to use rebates much anymore.
the only specials nissan has offered so far on the altima are .7% financing, and the $500 rebate for college students. with the exception of some modest rebates at the end of the year to clear out the remaining 07's, I wouldn't expect to see anything substantial. as long as continues with its double digit year to year growth, they really have no reason to.
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Re: Just a few thoughts [mf15]
by jaeger1
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Jul 09, 2007 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: mf15 (Jul 09, 2007 6:12 am)
At this stage, with time to play with, waiting to see what the '08 Accord delivers makes sense. I am SERIOUSLY underwhelmed by the exterior styling and the one pic I have seen of the interior (with a ginormous cavern in the middle of the dash) doesn't warm my heart, either. But in V6 form, it should certainly deliver power and refinement in spades. It's your call on the styling.
Of course, when it comes to getting any kind of a discount on that car anytime soon - fuhgeddaboutit.
Jaeger
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Re: Just a few thoughts [mf15]
by johninnj
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Jul 09, 2007 (4:04 pm)
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Replying to: mf15 (Jul 09, 2007 6:12 am)
I'm just curious....but have you driven a nicely equipped Legacy GT? I honestly don't think much competes when value is interjected.
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Re: Just a few thoughts [johninnj]
by mf15
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Jul 10, 2007 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: johninnj (Jul 09, 2007 4:04 pm)
For some reason at least at my age do not like the hood scoop. But thanks for the suggestion. Old Mike
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Re: Just a few thoughts [jaeger1]
by mf15
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Jul 10, 2007 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: jaeger1 (Jul 09, 2007 3:28 pm)
Jaeger: From what I can see on the new Accord from the pictures I am also not overly excited. I wonder if it is worth test driving a 2.5 Altima many people say it has lots of power, for a 4 banger. Tonight I am driving a rental Camry 4 cylinder LE while the Jeep is in the shop. So far it is fine perhaps somewhat underpowered, but only have driven 5 miles. I see that the Altima HID's are reflectors as opposed to projectors, I wonder how much difference that makes in night driving. It is possible that I might have to test drive a V6 Camry besides the trans issue not sure what else might be wrong with them. Old Mike
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