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Honda Odyssey vs. Hyundai Entourage vs. Kia Sedona vs. Toyota Sienna

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What is this discussion about? Honda Odyssey, Hyundai Entourage, Kia Sedona, Toyota Sienna, Car Comparisons, Van


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Re: Entourage test drive [mom2ian] by ateixeira
May 23, 2007 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: mom2ian (May 23, 2007 10:18 am)

Sounds good. We saw the Entourage at the auto show, but have not driven it yet.
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Re: Entourage test drive [mom2ian] by shaky4
May 23, 2007 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: mom2ian (May 23, 2007 10:18 am)

Hi mom2ian:
 
I can understand your dilemma. I was in the exact same predicament last month. I almost signed on April 30 for an Odyssey EX-L with fog lights ($579 extra) = $28,579 + taxes + $250 fees. I searched reviews, read test drive reports, went to different dealerships to take closer look at cars ....
 
Eventually bought an Entourage Limited with Ultimate Package on 05/05/07 with floor mats, covered cargo bins ($33,995 MSRP) for $28 + taxes OTD.
 
Both Entourage & Odyssey are extremely fine cars. Sienna is overpriced according to me and their packages are extremely confusing. Also their interior styling is drab to me unless you opt for XLE and above. Also, the sienna engine bay is naked with hoses/wires/belts/fluids. You can see the road through the engine bay if you peep under the hood. That to me is pathetic for a $35K car!!
 
I like Entourage headlights, rear end looks, and value for money proposition. The Entourage projector headlights look awesome at night. I like Odyssey front end styling, handling, dash design and 3rd row seats better. The Entourage is actually slightly quiter at 70 mph (66 decibels) as compared to (68dB) in Odyssey.
 
Buy Odyssey if you keep your cars for 3 years or less. Otherwise go with Entourage and you could'nt be happier
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Re: Entourage test drive by 2hyundaifamily
May 23, 2007 (3:23 pm)
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I agree with the above posters.
 
Buy the car you like the best but if you keep a car for any length of time - they all are worth close to nothing. I traded in a 8 YO Voyager that was giving me some problems otherwise I may have kept it for another 2 or 3 years.
 
I didn't test drive the Honda, I figured it was a really nice car based on what people have said about it and I did own a Honda so yes they are reliable. I do own a Hyundai and based on that car and the positive write ups I test drove and bought the Entourage. I probably saved approximately $4,000. It seems like a tight car with a lot of power and I haven't driven it enough to give a positive or negative opinion; I will say that the colors that are offered are lacking.
 
I did have a problem with the battery and it was in the shop for a little over a week because the Entourage has a different sized battery than the other Hyundais (per dealer)and most dealers that I visited didn't have many Entourages on the lot and they wouldn't steal a battery from the ones that were there. But things do fail and at this point they did repair the car so I will see how it goes.
 
This is my wifes car as was the Voyager and we bought the SE. My kids are 12 & 16, we have a portable DVD player, they now listen to their own MP3 players and we didn't think the difference in a Limited was worth the price. Money was the driving force of this purchase and we were happy with the level of comforts that the SE offered. I try to keep cars forever and resale value wasn't at all a concern with me.
 
I have been impressed with my Sonata and hopefully will be equally impressed with the Entourage. I think either way you will be happy.
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Re: Entourage test drive [2hyundaifamily] by bobber1
May 23, 2007 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: 2hyundaifamily (May 23, 2007 3:23 pm)

I just can't give the Hyundai a fair shake because I remember my wife's Hyundai Scoupe which was complete piece of junk at 80,000 miles. She bought it cheap and it was a nice car early on, but quickly deteriorated.
 
Granted the features on it are great, but this is a new model with no long term reliability studies done on it. You get what you pay for a lot of times.
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I Was Impressed by jchan2
May 23, 2007 (5:07 pm)
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with both the Entourage and Veracruz at NYIAS, but the depreciation factor scares me.
 
However, rapidly aging 2002 Odysseys like mine with 100K+ miles can still fetch anywhere from $9K-$14K, and that is probably far more than what a 5 year old Entourage with 100,000 miles will fetch.
 
That is certainly something to consider, especially if you're a person who trades in cars on a regular basis. (like myself)
 
If you're going to drive it into the ground, then by all means the Entourage is a better deal. But, if you trade cars every once in a while (say, every 5 years or 100,000 miles) then the waters become murkier.
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Re: Entourage test drive [bobber1] by 2hyundaifamily
May 23, 2007 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: bobber1 (May 23, 2007 4:00 pm)

That may be true.
 
I bought my Voyager based on driving a couple of company Voyagers and friends having Dodge/Plymouth minivans and loving them. I was unimpressed with this Voyager and the Caravan I drive now sold me off of the Chrysler product. But it is the best selling minivan out there. BTW, one of my friends had 165,000 miles on his Voyager ... pretty impressive. This was a 1999 and was nice for about 6 years and 80,000 miles. I then had to start putting some money into it and I did maintain the van. The seat back was leaning back and the air needed to be repaired and it had 102,000 miles on it ... so it was time.
 
I only have 20,000 miles on the Sonata but other than regular maintenence - no big problems. I did have the inside drivers door handle start to chip off the chrome and they replaced it under warranty. The Kia Sedona has been out for years and I looked at this as a redesign just as other manufacturers redesign. The Honda may last longer but there is no proof that a Hyundai will not last as long. One bad experience is not an indication of a bad manufacturer IMO.
 
Time will tell if my decision was correct!
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Re: Entourage test drive [bobber1] by davethecarnut
May 23, 2007 (9:25 pm)
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Replying to: bobber1 (May 23, 2007 4:00 pm)

That's exactly the problem Hyundai is having....their past. That's like saying you wouldn't buy a Lexus cuz that Toyota Cressida you had was nothing but trouble. This is not the same Hyundai, Bob, give them a look-see
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Re: Entourage test drive [davethecarnut] by ateixeira
May 24, 2007 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: davethecarnut (May 23, 2007 9:25 pm)

I agree 100%, however, until Hyundai can change the public's perception, residual values will be poor.
 
The catch is, perception lags behind reality, by 5 to 10 years, even more. The average Hyundai on the road is about 7 years old right now. Most people are still driving the ones from before they made their biggest improvements.
 
Any how, deals are so good, I've seen GLS models for under $20k. A one year old used Sedona LX goes for about $16-18k on Cars.com. That's as far back as we can go for this generation van.
 
So far, so good. Right now we can only forecast what actual residuals will be. If the van turns out to be a hit, it could fare much better than previous Hyundais, as long as they can get the word out to enough people.
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Re: Entourage test drive [ateixeira] by bobber1
May 24, 2007 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 24, 2007 7:26 am)

True. I run into a lot 50 somethings who can't shake their poor memories of 70's Chevys and won't buy one because of that. My last Chevrolet Impala has been an awesome car with almost no repairs and 150,000 mile on it.
 
It's too late for us as we bought an 07 Honda Odyssey EX and have been very pleased with it. We looked at Dodge, Toyota, and Honda and felt the Honda fitted us the best. I did look at the Kia & Hyundais and found it lacking mostly in little detail items. Plus my poor memories of that brand didn't help I freely admit.
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Re: Entourage test drive [bobber1] by ateixeira
May 24, 2007 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: bobber1 (May 24, 2007 9:41 am)

Dodge needs to hurry their new vans.
 
The windows don't open, the armrests are cheap vinyl, and the seats just aren't that comfy.
 
Stow-n-Go is nice but the 2nd row seats aren't comfortable. AWD is gone and so is the 8 passenger model.
 
Honestly Dodge didn't even make my short list, though we did check it out at the auto show. Price was the main thing they had going for them.

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