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Honda Odyssey vs. Hyundai Entourage vs. Kia Sedona vs. Toyota Sienna

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#82 of 206 Which Vans looks expensive and which vans looks cheap? by tiburonboi25 Jun 15, 2007 (11:55 am)
This is what i think!   1= Looks the most expensive 7= Looks the cheapest   1st Honda Odyssey   2nd Hyundai Entourage   3rd Nissan Quest   Tie Toyota Sienna   Tie Kia Sedona   6th Dodge/Chrysler   7th GM Minivans
#83 of 206 Re: folding/collapsible side mirrors ? [tushar1] by minivanguy Jun 15, 2007 (4:16 pm)
Replying to: tushar1 (Jun 14, 2007 6:48 am) The Sienna has power folding mirrors , I don't know about the other minivans. Well I know, the 05-07 ODY's don't have that feature .
#84 of 206 Re: PM report on Kia Sedona [minivanguy] by ateixeira Jun 15, 2007 (4:57 pm)
Replying to: minivanguy (Jun 14, 2007 9:04 pm) I always check behind the vehicle before I back out of the spot. Then keep an eye on the mirrors to see if anyone enters that blind spot.   Situational awareness is key. Technology can help, sure, but nothing beats the simple rule of paying attention to your surroundings.   Tib_boy: why is the Sedona so far behind the Entourage in you rankings? They're nearly identical. The Hyundai adds a tiny bit of chrome. From a distance most people can't even tell them apart.   Personally, I like for the door tracks to be hidden at the bottom of the window line. The Ody adds unsightly body lines down the side, I believe the Koreans twins do as well. The Sienna, Caravan, and Quest hide them nicely. Replies to this message: josm100 (Jun 15, 2007 7:38 pm) carfun888 (Jun 19, 2007 11:09 pm) ateixeira (Jun 20, 2007 12:18 pm)
#85 of 206 Re: PM report on Kia Sedona [ateixeira] by josm100 Jun 15, 2007 (7:38 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 15, 2007 4:57 pm) When backing any car you should be looking out the back window. There are a lot of data points your brain depends on to make full judgments. We take in as much information from our periferal vision as from what we can specifically see out the back window. If you're looking at the dash board or a rearview mirror while backing up you are at a much higher risk for being sideswiped by a car you can't see. For this reason I believe the back up sensors are a far superior safety feature to a rear view camera as it allows you to drive safely and still receive information form points you cant see. Just IMO. Replies to this message: carfun888 (Jun 19, 2007 11:09 pm) ateixeira (Jun 20, 2007 12:18 pm)
#86 of 206 Back up sensors [minivanguy] by 2hyundaifamily Jun 16, 2007 (10:25 am)
Replying to: minivanguy (Jun 14, 2007 9:04 pm) I guess never using it I don't think it's a "needed" thing just like a navigation system. Yes, it's nice but for how much and remember everything works nice when new ... 6 years down the line and it malfunctions then it costs money to get it to work correctly.   I agree that backing up into a child would be my worse nightmare but I have never had an instance that I've been in this situation. I have been in the situation where I look back and didn't catch a car coming down the street and as I'm backing up I need to stop quickly - I don't believe these sensors will catch that.   What's "needed" in a auto/minivan (not in any specific order)- IMO - HID headlights from what I've read, although the projection headlights that both my Hyundais have are pretty awesome (I drive a Dodge minivan (company car) and the headlights aren't anywhere near as good); LED Lighting where ever possible - LED's don't burn out and seem to stand out more; safety systems, although the Entourage is very safe I'm sure improvements can be made to every vehicle; maybe front sensors to warn you when you are approaching a car too fast (Volvo has something like this) helps to pick up a problem in case you didn't realize and finally something like GM's ONSTAR for emergencies, most people do have cell phones but what happens if you can't get to it - it would be nice for someone to be watching out for us.
#87 of 206 Re: PM report on Kia Sedona [hrngffcr] by minivanguy Jun 19, 2007 (8:38 pm)
Replying to: hrngffcr (Jun 12, 2007 6:35 pm) If I would've read your post earlier, I never would have posted. Your post is more detailed, "Sorry" .
#88 of 206 Re: PM report on Kia Sedona [josm100] by carfun888 Jun 19, 2007 (11:09 pm)
Replying to: josm100 (Jun 15, 2007 7:38 pm) We have the Ody touring with Nav/Camera.   From real world experience we don't "study" the camera when backing up. My wife and I will both still look rearwards as we reverse and glance quickly to the screen to confirm nothing is below our sightlines. The sensors are good but do give a lot of "false positives" such as the edge of the garage opening.   The real place the camera rocks is in parking lots. A quick glance and you can see a few more feet to safely reverse when trying to squeeze out of a tight spot.   We don't really use the voice commands feature but I know a few owners of Acura MDX's that do use it a lot.   Both the Nav and camera would be cheaper 3rd party but the integration is very good and both are quite handy to have. If Honda charged a more reasonable $500-$1000 for this then I'm sure there would be less discussion on its merits.   One last point on the technology. It will be outdated as soon as you design it into a car. IMO if you have tech envy and drive a minivan I'd suggest a visit to a therapist! Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jun 20, 2007 12:18 pm)
#89 of 206 Mileage results by jefferyg Jun 20, 2007 (8:38 am)
I checked the mileage in the Ody several times on our trip to San Antonio. The worst we got was 22 with about 50/50 in town and highway. The best we got was 26 (all highway). In the Texas heat the A/C never quit running the entire trip and we ran 5 - 10 over the speed limit (70 in most places) most of the time. I'm very pleased with the numbers and I'm confident that it can do better in cooler weather and slightly slower speeds. Replies to this message: bobber1 (Jun 20, 2007 6:35 pm)
#90 of 206 Re: PM report on Kia Sedona [carfun888] by ateixeira Jun 20, 2007 (12:18 pm)
Replying to: carfun888 (Jun 19, 2007 11:09 pm) I do think the backup cam would be useful for parking, especially backing in to a spot. In that situation there would not be any cars coming from the side that might suddenly enter your backup cam's field of view.
#91 of 206 Re: Mileage results [jefferyg] by bobber1 Jun 20, 2007 (6:35 pm)
Replying to: jefferyg (Jun 20, 2007 8:38 am) Good mileage numbers. Mine did almost exactly the same on a very similar trip. I found increasing from just 70 to 75 created a significant mileage penalty.

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