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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey vs. Hyundai Entourage vs. Kia Sedona vs. Toyota Sienna
206 messages, Last post on May 01, 2008 at 11:50 AM
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 08, 2007 9:39 am) It offers though: *Projector Headlamps (probably one of the nicest non-HID headlights along with GMC Acadia) *Projector fog lights *Leather seats *Heated seats with 5 settings *Integrated memory system for seats, pedals and mirrors *Digital tri zone climate control with cabin filter and air ionizer built in *Auto dipping mirrors in reverse *Active Head Restraints *660W sound system with 2 subwoofers and 11 speakers (The only mainstream van that features a 7.1 Dolby Digital/Prologic7/DTS system) a treat for audiophiles *Wireless headphones *5 years unlimited roadside assistance in continental US ($1000 value) *Much longer warranty on powertrain, bumper to bumper or perforation ($1000 value over the 3yr/36K and 5yr/60K warranty) *Better safety (remember 07 sienna fared poor in rear crash test conducted by IIHS) The only thing we are missing is the 8th seat. And I paid 27,700 for mine, $1000 more than you. It just does not add up!! Similarly equipped the Sienna costs $6000 more even before you purchase a matching warranty. The Sienna is a fantastic car, no doubt, but as far as value goes....?
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Replying to: shaky4 (Jun 08, 2007 11:05 am) *Park assist *Power tailgate *Homelink transceiver *Electrochromic rearview mirror |
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Replying to: shaky4 (Jun 08, 2007 11:05 am) We tried leather and actually preferred cloth. It's just more comfortable, softer and grippier, and breathes better. Funny thing was that limited what options we could get!  So I didn't want leather. Ideally I would have chosen heated cloth seats. Hyundai actually offers that combo in the SE model, so I probably would have gone that way had I bought a Hyundai - loaded up SE. The power seat controls are ripped right from Mercedes-Benz, brilliant design. Is that the Mercedes lawyers on the phone over at Hyundai?  Sienna has the cabin filter too. And homelink. And a conversation mirror. We got wireless headphones with our DVD player. To be honest, OE cannot beat aftermarket. My screen is 12", TWELVE inches. You're counting the number of speakers, so I can too.  12" means the viewing area is probably double, or even more, compared to stock. To be honest now that we're used to 12" the OE ones are totally unacceptable. We'd need binoculars to see those tiny screens. As for roadside assistance, Costco Executive Members that get insurance through Ameriprise get that for free. Zero. So the value to me for that is $0. For me, as in we're all different, our priorities vary. I wanted cloth. I really wanted a middle row with 3 seats (my wife watched The Sound of Music with the kids on our last road trip, so I'm sure she'd agree). With captain's chairs you can't do that, or you have to punish one of the kids by forcing them in to the 3rd row. The seat was the deciding factor. We were buying for max space and 8 is more than 7. I drove the Sedona, the 3.8l is torquey but if you sample the Toyota you will agree it is substantially quicker, plus gas mileage is actually a little better, and that is according to the EPA, CR, and even the trip computer on my test drives. More power, less fuel is an important advantage I could not ignore. I'll say it again - the 3.8l Sedona was fine, though.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 08, 2007 11:37 am)
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Replying to: josm100 (Jun 08, 2007 1:37 pm)
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the progress of vans (they're hardly mini anymore) in general have really progressed- I remember that as recent as 5 years ago, the Odyssey clearly kicked everybody's butt.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 07, 2007 6:26 am) I don't see the need for most people for AWD. Front wheel drive has served me well ever since I have been driving front wheel drives - 1984. I can see that some people may need AWD but the majority don't In car navigation - don't understand why anyone wants a $2000 navigation system when a navigation system can be had for under $300 - you can buy 6 new navigation systems through the years probably with newer and better features. I've read a lot of good things about HID - you're probably right that this option is good to have. The projection headlights on the Entourage are better than standard headlights and I was thinking on buying the Philips +50 headlights to see how much brighter they are compared to what stock is. I did sit in the 2nd row of the Sienna and at I felt it didn't have as much room as the Entourage. I'm only 6' and when I sat in the Sienna I tried to put the seat further back and it was as far back as it could go... felt cramped. I paid $22,700 for the Entourage, it has 2 power sliding doors, 7 passenger seating which we usually only use 4, I have a 9" DVD player from my last car, plan on buying a nav system for under $200 and if I upgrade the bulbs for $20 (may not so far night driving is OK without upgrading) I spent under $23,000. Oh, I don't have a 6 CD changer, I didn't feel I needed one and I do have a longer factory warranty - something that hopefully I won't need and paid $4000 less. To each his/her own!
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Replying to: bobber1 (Jun 08, 2007 3:28 pm) 
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Replying to: 2hyundaifamily (Jun 09, 2007 10:28 am) The reason for an in-dash is that the screen is bigger, so it is easier to see with a quick glance and be able to keep your eyes on the road more; you can attach an IPod module to it and hide the connector and the IPod; you can put a backup camera module with it--a very nice safety feature on a minivan; and a built-in will auto dim at night. Also, an aftermarket will allow you to upgrade the nav system over the time you have it. Finally, an in-dash will allow you to control the radio and nav system in one large central, easy-to-reach place (this is especially true with the placement of the radio and therefore the location of the in-dash nav in the Entourage).
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Replying to: hrngffcr (Jun 10, 2007 2:01 pm) I guess you could use it to back up a car to a trailer hitch if you tow. Or for very tight parking spots. But we're way out in the 'burbs, and even parallel parking yesterday in downtown DC I was fine. Check out the GPS Navigation threads - I had a Garmin StreetPilot c320 and bought another c340 model. It was $350, the lowest price you'll pay for a model that has text-to-speech technology (that means it reads the street names and numbers). Indeed, this has been a very civil discussion.  I think the cool thing about the minivan segment is that it is "mature", i.e. all the major players know exactly what is needed to produce a competitive van: * magic disappearing 3rd row seats * 2nd row windows that slide down * a big V6 with plentiful power * better-than-SUV fuel efficiency and space * a long options list to customize it Nissan is close, but really the four that nailed the formula are Honda, Toyota, Kia, and Hyundai. Naturally those were my top contenders.
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