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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey vs. Hyundai Entourage vs. Kia Sedona vs. Toyota Sienna
206 messages, Last post on May 01, 2008 at 11:50 AM
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I bought 2005 EX-L almost two years ago, based on all "positive" reviews. Some of them mentioned mild vibration, but attributed that to cylinder managemetn system. Now, with 34.000 miles on it, the vibration-droning is intolerable, unles you put some loud bass music (which I don't like to do). Car has been in dealership 5+ times (door handle replaced - thats minor, dont count, then Power steering failed, A-pipe replaced for droning, but did not resolved, brake pads replaced due to squuek - also minor). So 34k miles two minor problems and two big failures, with one still persisting. If i should have to buy again, definetely wouldn't be Honda, though 9 months ago bought new civic hybrid (just before ody started falling apart) - which right away had engine check light on and had recall for battery safety. Looks like Honda lost their grip on quality, now concentrating on quantity of sold cars. I am saying bye to honda after these two will finish their 6-7 year service (praying that odyssey wouldn't fall apart before that). 
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staraight up Entourage limited listed at Carmax for $23,849 with 17 thousand miles, straight up limited MSRP $28,895. Carmax has a no haggle policy so their listing is the price, they also estimate the taxes and fees to be $1,950 taking the total price to $25,799. After rebates the limited is price at $27,095. I bought an SE for $24,024 OTD or $1446 below msrp even before factoring in taxes and such. With this in mind I feel the retained value advantage of the honda is been shown to be a farce, The Hyundai is holding it's own and diseveradely so. 
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Replying to: josm100 (May 30, 2007 8:44 pm) I see Tauruses that are listed at CarMax for $12-$13K that I could easily get at a regular new car dealership used for around $10-$11K. (In fact one of the dealers around here makes it their specialty to sell 06 Tauruses for $9995)
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Replying to: jchan2 (May 31, 2007 4:09 pm) |
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Replying to: jchan2 (May 31, 2007 4:09 pm)
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Replying to: josm100 (Jun 01, 2007 8:05 am) |
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Hyundai entourage is named best in overal quality ... "DETROIT (AP) -- When it comes to car quality, think Korean. Hyundai Motor Co. leads in five categories in the annual vehicle quality study released Monday by Strategic Vision Inc., a San Diego-based market research company and consultant to automakers." "Hyundai's Azera led among large cars, and its Santa Fe led among small sport utility vehicles. Its Entourage was tied for best minivan with the Quest by Nissan Motor Co. and the Sedona by Hyundai affiliate Kia Motors Corp." link title
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Popular Mechanics had a Kia Sedona over the past year as a long term test vehicle. The June issue of PM had the last report. It got good reviews, but I noticed that their best mileage was 20.5 mpg. My wife's Odyssey has gotten better than 24 at least two times when I've checked it on trips and that's been with the A/C on. The lowest we've seen was 16 mpg on all local driving. The Sedona's worst according to PM was 14.8.
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Replying to: josm100 (Jun 04, 2007 4:53 pm) I'm not surprised to see the Entourage do well, what surprises me is the Quest making that list. I haven't driven the new facelifted ones, though. |
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Replying to: jefferyg (Jun 05, 2007 5:50 am) Driving style is also a factor, your wife and I could be much calmer drivers than the PM's tester, just a thought. Joe.
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