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Honda Odyssey, Hyundai Entourage, Kia Sedona, Toyota Sienna, Car Comparisons, Van
#29 of 206 2007 Recall(s)
May 29, 2007 (8:08 pm)
Make : HYUNDAI Model : ENTOURAGE Year : 2007
Manufacturer : HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 06V356000 Mfr's Report Date : SEP 13, 2006
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 790
ON CERTAIN MINIVANS EQUIPPED WITH ADJUSTABLE BRAKE PEDALS, THE STOP LAMP SWITCH WIRING HARNESS MAY BE OUT OF POSITION. AN IMPROPERLY POSITIONED STOP LAMP SWITCH WIRING HARNESS COULD MAKE CONTACT WITH THE U-JOINT ASSEMBLY OF THE STEERING COLUMN. REPEATED CONTACT MAY EVENTUALLY CAUSE THE WIRING HARNESS INSULATION TO CHAFE.
CHAFED INSULATION COULD CAUSE A SHORT OF THE WIRING HARNESS RESULTING IN THE LOSS OF BRAKE LIGHTS, ENGINE STALLING, OR AN INABILITY TO START THE VEHICLE INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE WIRING HARNESS FOR CHAFING AND REPAIR IT IF NECESSARY. ALSO, THE DEALER WILL SECURE THE WIRING HARNESS TO PREVENT FUTURE CONTACT WITH THE U-JOINT ASSEMBLY.THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 9, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HYUNDAI AT 1-800-633-5151.
HYUNDAI RECALL NO. 078. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
#30 of 206 Re: ALG Residual Value at 36 months / 60 months [ocuihs]
May 30, 2007 (8:47 am)
Just remember you get a bigger discount off MSRP to begin with from Hyundai.
I test drove a Sedona last night, even though I'd already purchased a Sienna. It does lag one step behind the Ody/Sienna IMO, though it's closer than Honda and Toyota would like to admit.
I sampled a loaded up EX with power everything, but to be honest I think the base Entourage that I saw for $19.7k makes more sense. At that price point, the flaws are all totally acceptable. Once you break $25k, you venture in to the "no excuses" price territory, and at that price level I'd opt for one of the Japanese-branded vans.
#31 of 206 Honda Odyssey problems
May 30, 2007 (8:03 pm)
I bought 2005 EX-L almost two years ago, based on all "positive" reviews. Some of them mentioned mild vibration, but attributed that to cylinder managemetn system. Now, with 34.000 miles on it, the vibration-droning is intolerable, unles you put some loud bass music (which I don't like to do). Car has been in dealership 5+ times (door handle replaced - thats minor, dont count, then Power steering failed, A-pipe replaced for droning, but did not resolved, brake pads replaced due to squuek - also minor). So 34k miles two minor problems and two big failures, with one still persisting.
If i should have to buy again, definetely wouldn't be Honda, though 9 months ago bought new civic hybrid (just before ody started falling apart) - which right away had engine check light on and had recall for battery safety. Looks like Honda lost their grip on quality, now concentrating on quantity of sold cars. I am saying bye to honda after these two will finish their 6-7 year service (praying that odyssey wouldn't fall apart before that).
#32 of 206 Used entourage prices
May 30, 2007 (8:44 pm)
staraight up Entourage limited listed at Carmax for $23,849 with 17 thousand miles, straight up limited MSRP $28,895. Carmax has a no haggle policy so their listing is the price, they also estimate the taxes and fees to be $1,950 taking the total price to $25,799. After rebates the limited is price at $27,095. I bought an SE for $24,024 OTD or $1446 below msrp even before factoring in taxes and such.
With this in mind I feel the retained value advantage of the honda is been shown to be a farce, The Hyundai is holding it's own and diseveradely so.
#33 of 206 Re: Used entourage prices [josm100]
May 31, 2007 (4:09 pm)
I wouldn't draw conclusions so fast; CarMax tends to mark up prices of their cars since they back it with a small warranty and a refund policy; and you pay a premium for the no-haggle experience.
I see Tauruses that are listed at CarMax for $12-$13K that I could easily get at a regular new car dealership used for around $10-$11K. (In fact one of the dealers around here makes it their specialty to sell 06 Tauruses for $9995)
#34 of 206 Re: Used entourage prices [jchan2]
Jun 01, 2007 (7:36 am)
Yeah, CarMax does pretty much have a "buy low, sell high" business strategy.
#35 of 206 Re: Used entourage prices [jchan2]
Jun 01, 2007 (8:05 am)
Good point, I would however point out that a similar Kia sedona (the same chasis)is selling for $17,000. This leads one to conclude that the retained value of the Hyundai will be better than the Sedona. The Sedona data is used by many websites such as consumer reports to predict the value of the Entourage. Time will tell, I plan on keeping mine for the lifetime of the warrenty (ten years) so I'm not that concerned. Thanks for the valid point though.
#36 of 206 Re: Used entourage prices [josm100]
Jun 01, 2007 (8:35 am)
Sedona came out sooner, though. They also have a little less equipment (no luminescent gauges like you can get on the Entourage Limited, for instance).
#37 of 206 Best in Show!
Jun 04, 2007 (4:53 pm)
Hyundai entourage is named best in overal quality ...
"DETROIT (AP) -- When it comes to car quality, think Korean. Hyundai Motor Co. leads in five categories in the annual vehicle quality study released Monday by Strategic Vision Inc., a San Diego-based market research company and consultant to automakers."
"Hyundai's Azera led among large cars, and its Santa Fe led among small sport utility vehicles. Its Entourage was tied for best minivan with the Quest by Nissan Motor Co. and the Sedona by Hyundai affiliate Kia Motors Corp."
#38 of 206 PM report on Kia Sedona
Jun 05, 2007 (5:50 am)
Popular Mechanics had a Kia Sedona over the past year as a long term test vehicle. The June issue of PM had the last report. It got good reviews, but I noticed that their best mileage was 20.5 mpg. My wife's Odyssey has gotten better than 24 at least two times when I've checked it on trips and that's been with the A/C on. The lowest we've seen was 16 mpg on all local driving. The Sedona's worst according to PM was 14.8.