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Honda Odyssey vs. Hyundai Entourage vs. Kia Sedona vs. Toyota Sienna

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What is this discussion about? Honda Odyssey, Hyundai Entourage, Kia Sedona, Toyota Sienna, Car Comparisons, Van


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Re: Entourage test drive [ateixeira] by davethecarnut
May 24, 2007 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 24, 2007 7:26 am)

But this vehicle will be a keeper for the next 5+ years so I'm not worried about re-sale. But people can get a great deal on year old used ones. Especially with alot of that warranty still left.
 
That stow-n-go seat is a great idea, but you guys are right, it is very uncomfortable to sit in.
 
The Honda Odyssey is just that: a Honda. They've proven their reliability. But with that proof comes a higher price tag.
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Re: Entourage test drive [davethecarnut] by ateixeira
May 25, 2007 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: davethecarnut (May 24, 2007 9:26 pm)

True, but buy new. Only the 5/60 portion of the warranty transfers to the 2nd owner. So if you want 100k powertrain coverage buy a new one.
 
Honestly? I see new GLS models for $19.8k.
 
Then I looked for year-old Sedonas, and they cost $16k to $18k, the higher priced models with more equipment.
 
So going from 19.8k to 16k after a year of use doesn't seem too bad, it's about par for depreciation nowadays. Honda and Toyota will do a little better, but there is an opportunity cost for the extra $ you pay as well.
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Re: Entourage test drive [ateixeira] by goodegg
May 25, 2007 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 25, 2007 6:46 am)

I don't share your affinity for used vehicles. You have no idea of their history. How many curbs have been hit, how many times the transmission was put into D while still creeping back in R, how hard the brakes had been ridin, all the jackrabbit starts, how many times someone drove over some obstacle that slammed the underside of the vehicle, scraped the oil pan, or so on......
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Re: Entourage test drive [goodegg] by ateixeira
May 25, 2007 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: goodegg (May 25, 2007 9:33 am)

Oh, I bought new. Just looked at used for the heck of it.
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ALG Residual Value at 36 months / 60 months by ocuihs
May 28, 2007 (12:18 am)
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ALG Residual Value % After 36 Months: (53% - Odyssey), (33% - Entourage)
  
ALG Residual Value % After 60 Months: (37% - Odyssey), (20% - Entourage)
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we bought our van and got the Honda Care extended warranty for 6 years/120K miles/$100 deductible for $860 on EX-L R+N; besides powertrain, just in case to cover RES+NAVI+XM satellite radio
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Re: ALG Residual Value at 36 months / 60 months [ocuihs] by hrngffcr
May 28, 2007 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: ocuihs (May 28, 2007 12:18 am)

First, you had to pay extra for that extended warranty. You don't with the Hyundai. Second, anyone who buys a car and resells it in three years has more money than sense. And third, in five years, as the Hyundai's reputation continues to rapidly build, as it has over the past three to four years, there's a very good chance that those 60 month numbers you show will be worthless. Start living in the future rather than the past.
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Re: ALG Residual Value at 36 months / 60 months [hrngffcr] by davethecarnut
May 28, 2007 (8:34 pm)
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Replying to: hrngffcr (May 28, 2007 9:31 am)

Plus, going back 60 months puts the Entourage back to the first generation Sedona category (true?). The Odyssey does have the better reputation, but the Entourage is a brand new model. Maybe we'll just have to see in the coming years.
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Re: ALG Residual Value at 36 months / 60 months [hrngffcr] by josm100
May 29, 2007 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: hrngffcr (May 28, 2007 9:31 am)

I agree, you shouldn't buy a car for it's resale value. If you want to trade a car after 3 years just lease one. I just bought the Entourage EX for $5000 off retail and plan to drive it well outside it's warrenty, I am also delighted with this car.
Almost all the sites covering this car are using Kia Sedona data to assess the entourage. I can buy a Kia Sedona EX with 16000 miles at car max for $17000, that's comparable with other dealerships. The used entourages with similar miles(the few that there are) are only two to three thousand off retail. Lets give the entourage a chance, it may not devalue at $1000 per ten thousand miles like Honda or toyota but I think it will be close.
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2007 Recall(s) by ocuihs
May 29, 2007 (8:08 pm)
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Make : HYUNDAI Model : ENTOURAGE Year : 2007
Manufacturer : HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 06V356000 Mfr's Report Date : SEP 13, 2006
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 790
Summary:
 ON CERTAIN MINIVANS EQUIPPED WITH ADJUSTABLE BRAKE PEDALS, THE STOP LAMP SWITCH WIRING HARNESS MAY BE OUT OF POSITION. AN IMPROPERLY POSITIONED STOP LAMP SWITCH WIRING HARNESS COULD MAKE CONTACT WITH THE U-JOINT ASSEMBLY OF THE STEERING COLUMN. REPEATED CONTACT MAY EVENTUALLY CAUSE THE WIRING HARNESS INSULATION TO CHAFE.
Consequence:
 CHAFED INSULATION COULD CAUSE A SHORT OF THE WIRING HARNESS RESULTING IN THE LOSS OF BRAKE LIGHTS, ENGINE STALLING, OR AN INABILITY TO START THE VEHICLE INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy:
 DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE WIRING HARNESS FOR CHAFING AND REPAIR IT IF NECESSARY. ALSO, THE DEALER WILL SECURE THE WIRING HARNESS TO PREVENT FUTURE CONTACT WITH THE U-JOINT ASSEMBLY.THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 9, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HYUNDAI AT 1-800-633-5151.
Notes:
 HYUNDAI RECALL NO. 078. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
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Re: ALG Residual Value at 36 months / 60 months [ocuihs] by ateixeira
May 30, 2007 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: ocuihs (May 28, 2007 12:18 am)

Just remember you get a bigger discount off MSRP to begin with from Hyundai.
 
I test drove a Sedona last night, even though I'd already purchased a Sienna. It does lag one step behind the Ody/Sienna IMO, though it's closer than Honda and Toyota would like to admit.
 
I sampled a loaded up EX with power everything, but to be honest I think the base Entourage that I saw for $19.7k makes more sense. At that price point, the flaws are all totally acceptable. Once you break $25k, you venture in to the "no excuses" price territory, and at that price level I'd opt for one of the Japanese-branded vans.

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