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Honda Odyssey vs. Hyundai Entourage vs. Kia Sedona vs. Toyota Sienna

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Odyssey vs Entourage vs Sedona vs Sienna, etc by autowrite
Apr 13, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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Why include Entourage and Sedona when April 08 issue of Consumer Reports reports that Honda "Makes the best cars" and has the most reliable vehicles, the top 2 miniivans are 1st Odyssey & 2nd Sienna. The Sedona & Entourage are not reliable
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Re: Odyssey vs Entourage vs Sedona vs Sienna, etc [autowrite] by ateixeira
Apr 14, 2008 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: autowrite (Apr 13, 2008 7:14 pm)

1st Odyssey & 2nd Sienna
 
You got it backwards.
 
The top rated van is the FWD Sienna, with 93 points overall. It was 1st.
 
The Ody got 91 points, and came in 2nd.
 
In reliability the Sienna was also rated higher.
 
It's definitely Toyota #1, Honda #2, FWIW.
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Re: Odyssey vs Entourage vs Sedona vs Sienna, etc [autowrite] by thegraduate
Apr 15, 2008 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: autowrite (Apr 13, 2008 7:14 pm)

Because, believe it or not, some people don't use CR as the end-all of choosing a vehicle!
 
VWs aren't known for being reliable either, yet people pay premiums for them over Hondas and Toyotas. Its ok to pick outside the reliability box.
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Re: Odyssey vs Entourage vs Sedona vs Sienna, etc [thegraduate] by davethecarnut
Apr 15, 2008 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 15, 2008 11:54 am)

Amen.....I use CR to pick appliances....of course, some people view cars as appliances...that's why the Taurus was so popular. I mean, come on, a Taurus? What car guy or gal would pick a Taurus? I do admit I've rented a couple of Taurus' ( Tauri?). But I don't ignore CR. They do do great work. It's just that a car means more to me than an appliance. And I'm sure to most of you who read these forums and use Edmunds.
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Taurus by autowrite
Apr 16, 2008 (9:33 am)
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I had a 1992 Taurus long-stroke enging. In the 276,000 milometers I had it it never had an engine or transmission problem. The big problems were the brakes, wheel fender rust, wiper motors and tie rods.
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Re: Odyssey vs Entourage vs Sedona vs Sienna, etc [davethecarnut] by ateixeira
Apr 16, 2008 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: davethecarnut (Apr 15, 2008 1:34 pm)

Some fun cars also happen to be reliable.
 
You don't have to give up fun.
 
My Miata is 15 years old now and running like a top.
 
I want to upgrade to a 2006, but really this one is fine, I have no reason to. I wish it would break down!
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Re: Taurus [autowrite] by cheapdad000
Apr 16, 2008 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: autowrite (Apr 16, 2008 9:33 am)

I had a 1989 Taurus as my first vehicle (bought it at age 5 with 80K miles on it). I am still searching for a vehicle as comfortable with plenty of hip room in the front seat (tired of these vehicles with center consoles - give me a split front bench anyday). I got it to survive until 10 yrs/155K without major repairs. Of course had to do without AC for the last 4 years (couldnt afford to/didnt want to get it fixed as at the time conversion kits were non-existent and would cost thousands of dollars to convert to R134) - but it helped me learn all of the local backroads as stopping at a light in 100 degree heat in a black car was brutal. In the end the transmission was dead, actually for the last year of its life I couldnt use overdrive, had to just use the "D" setting. But from a comfort/value perspective there was nothing like it.
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Kia is great for budgets by kitagrl
Apr 27, 2008 (7:43 am)
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For those on a budget, Kia is great. I would just make sure you really get a good deal on it though, if you are going to spend 30,000 on a vehicle, get the Honda for its good resale! However if you are like us, and need a deal, get the Kia. We just got a loaded-with-everything (luxury, power, dvd) 2007 Kia Sedona EX that was a Kia demo car with 1500 miles on it for only $19,500. For that, I think I can swallow some of the things like wind noise or whatever rattles crop up. However if I paid the 33,000 list price for the loaded, or even the 25,000-28,000 "retail", the petty things might seem bigger. Is it really worth paying $10,000 more just to make the inside quieter (maybe the wind noise will block out whining?)....not really for us. But then we've only had this one for two days (traded in our 2004 Sedona, needed more space.)
 
I will say we rented a Town and Country a few years ago on a trip and we hated it!
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Re: Kia is great for budgets [kitagrl] by ateixeira
Apr 28, 2008 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: kitagrl (Apr 27, 2008 7:43 am)

I agree and I think I've stated something similar before.
 
I've seen basic Hyundai Entourages, new, for under $20k.
 
At that price, they make no excuses.
 
FWIW, though, I got a fairly well equipped Sienna for $25 grand, power doors on both sides, 6CD, a lot of stuff that $20k Entourage would not have had.
 
So it's definitely not $10 grand more. Maybe $3-4k.
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Re: Kia is great for budgets [ateixeira] by autowrite
Apr 28, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 28, 2008 11:05 am)

The Hyundai Entourages prices in Canada for the basics start at:
 
L AUTOMATIC $30,995.00
 GL AUTOMATIC $33,395.00
 GLS AUTOMATIC $37,495.00
 Limited AUTOMATIC $39,495.00
 
Gas is currently $1.22 in Ontario oer litre and most other provinces at %1.34+
$1.22 works out to $4.61 per gallon. And as you know gas is going up! I am on a pension with a 2002 Odyssey. I am keeping it and keeping it in repair (possibly forever). It currently has 200,000 kms on it.
 
The next time I would probably want Honda's Stream (when it comes to NA) or Toyota's micro-minivan in a disel/electric hybrd.

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