Last post on May 01, 2008 at 11:50 AM
You are in the Honda Odyssey
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Honda Odyssey, Hyundai Entourage, Kia Sedona, Toyota Sienna, Car Comparisons, Van
#184 of 206 liked the Kia
Mar 21, 2008 (8:30 pm)
We were looking for a under $20,000 van and prefer to buy used if possible. We tried everything, and like the Honda but to get the most current model it took all of the $20,000 and that was for a van just off warranty. We found a used 2007 Kia Sedona LX with 18,000 miles and got it for about $15,500 if you use a realistic cash value on our trade instead of the bumped up number they used to make it look like we were putting more down. It still has a longer bumper to bumper warranty left then a Honda comes with new. The new Honda dealer flat out lied to me about his cost on a van which really turned me off on a new one. He said many times the prices at Edmunds and other places were thousands under what they really have to pay. Finally I got him to admit that that's just what they could get for them not what they had to get (which is all fine and dandy if he hadn't lied in the first place). I really like the Toyota van with the new motor but they are hard to find used and are a good $22,000 even then. Also they are very mushy in the suspension which is probably what some people like. The Kia to me seemed sportier then the Honda maybe because it's a little lighter. I guess if you have $25,000 to spend and an honest dealer then a new Honda is nice but why not take advantage of the initial resale drop on the Hyundai and Kia and get an equally nice van for much less? Either invest the $10,000 or save all that interest in financing.
#185 of 206 Re: Buyers Beware! [lions]
Mar 22, 2008 (6:39 pm)
here an update Honda said they will pay for the coil spring only $135.00 out of $475.00 bill Thanks Honda Coil springs should not break.
#186 of 206 Re: liked the Kia [hersbird]
Mar 24, 2008 (8:15 am)
Congrats, that's a great price for only 18k miles, barely broken in.
I believe the 5/60 warranty does convey to the 2nd owner, but the 100k powertrain warranty only applies to the original owner. Just keep that in mind.
Having said that, you could buy an extended warranty with your savings, easily.
#187 of 206 Re: liked the Kia [hersbird]
Mar 26, 2008 (5:02 pm)
You found the Kia to be lighter? Wow! I had the exact opposite experience when I traded from my Sedona to the Sienna. The Kia felt much heavier, and was harder to fit in my garage. I am much happier with my Sienna. Sounds like you got a good deal, however... congratulations!!
#188 of 206 Re: liked the Kia [siennami]
Mar 26, 2008 (9:39 pm)
What year Sienna??? The Sienna is quite a bit bigger than the Sedona/Entourage. It fits better in the garage??
#189 of 206 Re: liked the Kia [davethecarnut]
Mar 28, 2008 (5:51 am)
The extended Sedona is actually an inch longer than the Sienna, 202" vs. 201".
The Sienna is also lighter in curb weight.
Just for what it's worth.
#190 of 206 Traded my Honda for a Sedona
Mar 30, 2008 (7:48 am)
I purchased a 2006 Sedona LX w/DVD last month. I sold my 99 Honda Odyssey. The Sedona was in service for 13 months, had 21k miles on it, and was in perfect condition, I paid $13,900.
I am extremely pleased with this van. Mechanically this van is top notch. Enjoy driving it much better than I ever liked the Honda. I am a little disappointed with the DVD system though. After only a month, the eject mechanism failed. Glad I have the 5yr/60k warranty. Only other complaint I have is the factory tires (Kumho KH16's) are lousy in the snow. I'll upgrade them next fall.
It seems as though a 1 or 2 year old Sedona or Entourage is one of the best deals you can get right now. I would be hesitant to buy a new one though, unless you are certain you will keep it for 5+ years. The depreciation will KILL you.
#191 of 206 Re: Traded my Honda for a Sedona [sambojoho1]
Mar 31, 2008 (7:32 am)
Well written post, and I agree 100%. $13,900 is crazy cheap.
You probably have 2-3 years of warranty left, nearly what you'd have on a $25k new one.
#192 of 206 sienna vs kia
Apr 01, 2008 (7:59 pm)
I agree the Sienna is lighter then the Kia, I was addressing the Honda in comparison to the Kia. The Toyota just doesn't feel as nimble as the Kia, or the Honda for that matter. It's more like a Camry which by most people's judgement isn't bad, I just like the firmer suspension. I would be very happy with a Sienna with the new 3.5 motor but they were over $20,000 used with 20,000 miles on them at the time I bought the Kia.
I also agree the factory Kumho tires were not good in the snow even with good tread left on them. I went to dedicated studded snows which are really noisy but can't be beat for winter traction. I also just put a set of lower profile 18" wheels and tires on the Kia for spring and now it really feels (and looks) good.
#193 of 206 Re: sienna vs kia [hersbird]
Apr 02, 2008 (7:30 am)
Yep, best I could find a 2 year old used Sienna was about $20,900, and the new ones are about $25k with the same equipment.
May as well buy new. So that's what I did.