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Honda Odyssey vs. Hyundai Entourage vs. Kia Sedona vs. Toyota Sienna

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Re: PM report on Kia Sedona [ateixeira] by shaky4
Jul 19, 2007 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 19, 2007 6:14 am)

I would take these independent sound tests (including mine) with a pinch of salt. There are too many variables to conclude scientifically like temperature, traffic, wind speed, drafts, humidity, engine temperature (engines are noisier when cold) et cetera. You cannot have a comparison unless you have the vans in same condition driven at exact location, at exact same time, by same driver (which is impossible) under identical conditions.
 
When I test drove the top four repeatedly over 2 months scratching my head, the Kia was the quietest followed by Toyota on some days. On some occasions I found Toyota/Honda to be quietest. Unfortunately Hyundai had only a GLS for test drive and it was not as quiet. The limited one was a manager special on the floor and I had to buy my new Entourage without test driving. At idle/initial acceleration, the entourage has a sporty exhaust note but it is whisper quiet with seamless shifts. I also found the interior quality to be quite good, though, I liked Nissan's interior quality the best.
 
Kia had hydraulic engine mounts, 5 speed transmission, and independent suspension on all four wheels as early as 2002. My first minivan, a 2002 sedona ex, was whisper quiet and we were sad to see it go.
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Re: PM report on Kia Sedona [shaky4] by ateixeira
Jul 19, 2007 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: shaky4 (Jul 19, 2007 7:46 am)

I remember Nissan did have some very nice fabric on the Quest. I didn't like the interior at all and the 2nd row windows don't go down.
 
To be honest I felt the Sedonda, Entourage, Sienna, and Odyssey were all on an entirely higher level than the Quest, though to be fair I haven't driven the newer ones with the redesigned interior.
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Run Flat Tires by autowrite
Jul 23, 2007 (10:41 am)
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In Canada RunFlat tires are standard on the Sienna and not available on the Odyssey. Up here the Odyssey uses 16" tires.
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Re: Review Ratings (different sources) [ateixeira] by thegraduate
Jul 24, 2007 (8:18 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 16, 2007 7:56 am)

Best selling does not mean best overall.
  
Do you really think the Ford Explorer is the best SUV on the market?

 
**Sidebar: Ford's gas-guzzler Explorer (it really eats gas to be so small) is now behind in sales to the number 1 Honda CR-V.
 
****Now back to your regularly scheduled minivans. Stay tuned for to GRAD News for more random updates****
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Re: Run Flat Tires [autowrite] by thegraduate
Jul 24, 2007 (8:18 pm)
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Replying to: autowrite (Jul 23, 2007 10:41 am)

Not even on the Odyssey touring?
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Re: Review Ratings (different sources) [thegraduate] by ateixeira
Jul 25, 2007 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2007 8:18 pm)

True, just happened this year.
 
Even the CR-V, though, isn't what I'd consider the best SUV. No V6/engine upgrade option for starters.
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Honesty in Advertising? [ateixeira] by hansienna
Jul 25, 2007 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 25, 2007 7:20 am)

Subaru was one of the major manufacturers to start DISHONEST advertising when they began calling a small 4 wheel drive station wagon an SUV.
 
Too many people do NOT know the difference between a REAL pickup and a small Light Utility Vehicle because of false advertising. Same with AWD vs 4 WD.
 
Honda CR-V vs Ford Explorer: NO Comparison. Are they the same type vehicle?
 
Isn't the CR-V built on a Front Wheel Drive car frame with AWD optional while the Explorer is built on a Rear Wheel Drive truck frame with 4 Wheel Drive optional?
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Re: Honesty in Advertising? [hansienna] by ateixeira
Jul 25, 2007 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: hansienna (Jul 25, 2007 9:39 am)

Subaru never said SUV, they said Sport Utility Wagon. They pitched themselves as an SUV alternative, not just another SUV.
 
And what about 2WD SUVs, are they still SUVs?
 
Heck, the whole SUV label is a misnomer, what Sports do they practice, exactly? At least Subaru competes in WRC.
 
Explorers aren't particularly good off road, so that may not be the best example.
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Re: Honesty in Advertising? [ateixeira] by hansienna
Jul 25, 2007 (8:04 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 25, 2007 12:13 pm)

Thanks for the corrections. I had misinterpreted the Subaru ads and I agree with you 100 % concerning SUVs and Explorers.
 
Things have become very murky now that there are no longer just cars and trucks.
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Re: Run Flat Tires [thegraduate] by autowrite
Jul 25, 2007 (8:30 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2007 8:18 pm)

Not even on the Touring Model.
See the following Canadian Specifications web.
 
http://www.honda.ca/HondaCA2006/Models/Odyssey/2007/Specs?L=E

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