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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey vs. Hyundai Entourage vs. Kia Sedona vs. Toyota Sienna
206 messages, Last post on May 01, 2008 at 11:50 AM
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Replying to: siennami (Jul 03, 2007 5:32 am) My dad used to have a Crown Vic and had just an inch or two on either side to squeeze it in his garage, but the tennis ball trick worked perfectly. He set it to hit the windshield when he had to stop. You could use the same idea on the sides, too. I'm getting used to driving a van as well, but at least the mirrors are big and blind spots are small. |
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Click here for 19 different (sources) review ratings...Enjoy!
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Replying to: ocuihs (Jul 07, 2007 2:56 am)  WHAT do the buyers of minivans know that the "EXPERTS" don't know? 
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Replying to: hansienna (Jul 15, 2007 9:32 am) Rebates, Rebates, Rebates. Price and fleet sales are the only things that keep the Caravan ahead of the other vans in sales. They are like the last several years of Ford Tauruses. If you take away the fleet sales their numbers are just not that great. |
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Replying to: hansienna (Jul 15, 2007 9:32 am) Do you really think the Ford Explorer is the best SUV on the market? Dodge has several advantages: * they were first, 1984 IIRC * they have by far the most current owners * loyalty incentives try to keep those customers * other incentives keep prices lower * economies of scale let them charge less money * more fleet sales, as mentioned above As for the "experts", well, they get press fleet cars for free, and aren't paying for them. They pick the best product, period, often times with cost no object. It's not their money. Also, press fleet cars tend to be loaded up to the gills, to show off all the best features available. So they won't have a base Dodge Caravan, they would have a loaded up Town & Country Limited with every single feature offered.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 16, 2007 7:56 am) Best selling means the MOST Value for the price paid. Dodge will continue to be the best selling because of all the advantages listed.
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Replying to: hansienna (Jul 16, 2007 7:56 pm) I keep my vehicles for a very long time, and did some math. A +2mpg difference for me adds up to more than $1000 in savings over the life of the vehicle. I bet my TCO will end up no higher than it would have been if I had purchased that $20,600 Grand Caravan (which also lacked SAC and power sliding doors).
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 17, 2007 6:14 am) Since neither my wife nor I drive aggressively, we don't notice the additional power of the Sienna while the gas mileage is almost identical. The Sienna with 5 speed AT has to shift down 2 gears on the same highway where the 02 T&C shifted down only 1 gear to maintain the same 75 MPH speed on I-15.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 08, 2007 9:32 am) -Leather seatings - quad captain chairs. -front driver/pass seat heating. -Memory seats/rearview mirrors/pedal. -Power seats/pedal/rearview mirrors. -Power Sunroof -Rear parking sensor -Automatic Tilt rearview mirrors when back up. -Tri-zone Auto Climate control -power sliding doors/liftgate -DVD entertainment system -13 speakers Infinity Sound system (Surround Sound) -Elelectro luminescent gauges cluster. -Shiftronic 5 speed transmission. The comparable Odyssey/Sienna/Quest that would cost $8000-$9000 more NOT to metion 60k bumper to bumper and 100K powertrain warranty....! For me, I could not tell the difference between those three when driving...The Quest I test drove seems to be more "sporty" than Ody/Entourage/Siena....1000 miles on my Entourage as of Today , not even a rattle ... Zero complaint ! 
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Replying to: hansienna (Jul 17, 2007 10:06 am) The 3.8l Dodge gets 18/25 so you still sacrifice a bit of economy and some power. Also, real world economy numbers show Toyota's advantage to be even greater. You'll see when you get your Dodge. In fact, I bet you'll change your name to hanchrysler and offer polarized opinions (both good and bad) about your new van then, too.  YMMV. |
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