Article Comments - Long-Term Test: 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4x4

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Article comments for Long-Term Test: 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4x4 - One 4x4 leaves the Inside Line long-term test fleet and another arrives in its place. Welcome the 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara. Let the one-year road test begin. (more)

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#23 of 32 Well... by albook Jul 12, 2008 (6:23 am)
I understand that road performance isn't great, but let's not even bring the Nissan or Toyota into this. Those vehicles don't even commpare in capability to what the Wrangler can do. And neither looks as good.
#24 of 32 Re: Consumer Reports [porscheag] by roadburner Jul 12, 2008 (6:43 am)
Replying to: porscheag (Jul 11, 2008 10:41 am) If you choose to make decisions in your life like these because of the Consumer Reports says, I feel bad for you. You must live a very boring, dull life. Consumer reports is the worst publication out in my opinion. Full of inaccuracies and bad opinions. I agree. How could you trust them? They even recommend Bose speakers. I'm at the point where I thoroughly reconsider my opinion if CR likes something that I like...
#25 of 32 Not an off-roader, not a soft-roader, not an anything-roader. by adamgreen Jul 14, 2008 (6:14 pm)
Much as I enjoyed renting the "Unlimited," it's real limitations were obvious before we got to the beach, let alone off road or the various excursions on sealed roads at anything above 30 mph. Jeep has not yet figured out how to build a "soft roader" and while this Unlimited idea is a great objective, it misses on the "Trail Rated" side of things (it doesn't get along the Rubicon very well at all) and it's not a fun way to get to the trail head to start the journey. I look forward to Jeep putting the best of all there vehicles together to bring the Unlimited to a point where it deserves the reputation of the brand.
#26 of 32 Re: I WANT TO KNOW ONE THING.... [colorado1974] by intoler8 Jul 14, 2008 (6:36 pm)
Replying to: colorado1974 (Jul 10, 2008 9:04 pm) I agree with you 100%. I am 6ft 5in tall and would never be able to own such small vehicles such as a miata or 911. I just don't fit. Like you, I also like the bumpy ride, the way it sits higher than all other vehicles, it;s minimalistic interior made for simplicity and reduced wear and tear. The seats are very comfortable, the best I have sat in of any truck/4X4. And the unlimited powertrain warranty can't be beat. Ask GM and Toyota if they will guarantee their product this long. Plus, I like the rugged looks of the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. I get tons of compliments on how cool mine looks (Jeep Green Sahara Unlimited 4X4, Khaki interior/top and MyGig, it's loaded). I plan on getting American Racing Mojave wheels in Black teflon to give it a more military look. If someone says it is not as refined as Brand X, etc, they need to understand that it was never made to be a luxury SUV. I always use the analogy that the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited is the swiss army knife of vehicles. While it can do many things well (and almost anything), it will never be all things (a luxury car, give the best ride, be a Mercedes, etc). I am accepting of it being built for ruggedness and abuse while sacrificing the luxury of leather, smooth ride, etc. In AZ, you need a rugged vehicle. Roads are not that great, lots of dirt roads, rocks, dust, etc. It takes the abuse and keeps going. If you want a luxury jeep that drives better, get a Jeep Grand Cherokee or Range Rover, but for the money, you can't beat this vehicle. I am keeping mine forever!!!
#27 of 32 Don't buy the Wrangler if . . . by bowmanwheeler Jul 16, 2008 (1:49 pm)
If you don't know what RTI is. If you don't know what approach and departure angles are. If you don't know what breakover angles are. If you don't know what locking differentials are. If you don't know what your water fjording depth is. There are literally dozens of people hauling SUVs out there that pamper you at 85 mph on the fwy (got one - a Saturn Outlook) but the Wrangler is not one of them. If you're looking for comfort, steer clear, this is not your ride (though it's easily the most comfortable, refined Wrangler yet, by a good margin). The Wrangler was and is the one and only true get-you-anywhere vehicle made and Jeep is selling every one of them at full pop and trying to figure out how to add a third shift to crank these hits out. If you want to cut it down for being rough or noisy or unrefined, you'd be right and are looking at/bought the wrong vehicle. Too bad. On the other hand, the Jeep engineer's did the miraculous. They took the great TJ (previous generation) and made it better in every empirical way including off road specifications and preformance. Furthermore, they did the near impossible by ensuring that the Wrangler soul was not lost in the process. I had a rough, hot, bumpy, loud, and very capable YJ. My new JK is truly a remarkable improvement. When the road gets slippery, rocky and ugly, you'll think of this post and the Wrangler you should have been in.
#28 of 32 It's a Jeep thing.. you wouldn't understand! by av8tr1 Mar 02, 2009 (12:22 pm)
I have been a Wrangler owner since '99. I have read reviews on the '98 I bought and have heard the same complaints throughout time (to rough, to bumpy, to noisy, not enough yuppie). If you want a vehicle that rides like a luxury car with all the luxury care do-dads, well.. buy a luxury car. Please do me a favor.. soccer moms and latte sippers need not apply! I love my Wrangler. The only thing I would trade it in on is a new one. It's the only vehicle I will ever own, noisiness, bumpiness and all. I wouldn't have it any other way. So please, please stop comparing it to those princess SUV's. There is no comparison.
#29 of 32 Know what you are writing about before keying it in... by jeepnotansuv Jul 12, 2009 (7:59 am)
I found issue with the OPINIONS provided on the test of the 2007 JEEP Wrangler Unlimited 4x4. The JEEP is not an SUV; and an SUV, is NOT a JEEP. I have owned a 1993 Wrangler, a 1989 Cherokee (225,000 miles on it when I sold it), a 1999 Grand Cherokee Limited, a 2003 Rubicon, and now a 2007 Rubicon Unlimited. I've driven about 47,000 miles in the Rubicon Unlimted in a hair over two years, and love it. No other vehicle can go anywhere at anytime. I drove my 1993 Wrangler through the 100 year flood in Reno, NV years ago, and watched other supposed 4x4 vehilces...SUVs, stuck in the snow, and trying to keep their tires dry. I looked for water and snow to drive through. I have driven through snow fall that has shut cities down in my Rubicon Unlimited, while SUVs timidly tried to drive in my path, like a toddler touches the bath water timidly with his/her toe. Hell, with a JEEP, you can faithfully just jump right in. Oh, and if you want to go topless, hey another thing an SUV can't touch. Remember this...a Hummer H3 has a mid-size trailblazer wheel base. Essentially they took a midsize want-a-be SUV, and put a more mannly and more JEEP-like mask to sell it. Then, you have the Toyota FJ, which doesn't come close to the retro FJ's that came close to competing with the JEEP. The FJ has a small/mid-size Landcruiser 120 Series Prado, or Lexis GS (US model), which is similiar to the 4-Runner wheelbase. So, they took a want-to be SUV, and put what they thought was more mannly and more JEEP-like mask to sell it. Hell, a mask is a mask...a PT Cruiser is a Neon with a bolder face. One vehicle that come close to a JEEP, and what a JEEP is built for, would be the Landrover, which in 1948 was first built, oh, using a JEEP wheelbase. Wow, imagine that. But, the Landrover of today, is maybe what an SUV is...but not a JEEP. Older Landrovers could come close to competing. Then you have the Mercedes G models. But for the money yo u pay for even a base model, if it comes in one, you could outfit one hell of a JEEP, that would be untouchable. Be smart when you buy. Know the product before you sink hard eraned money into it. Remember, a JEEP is not an SUV, and an SUV is not a JEEP. I love my 2007 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited. As said, I have driven it about 47,000 miles in just over two years, as I drive it for work. I get all kinds of compliments, and questions. If you love sitting in a well heated or cooled leather-clad lobby, then buy a high-end SUV, Escalade, Landrover with all the animities. A JEEP has its purposes, and people who purchase a JEEP have there purposes. Replies to this message: roadburner (Jul 13, 2009 10:43 am) mac24 (Jul 14, 2009 2:31 am)
#31 of 32 Re: Know what you are writing about before keying it in... [jeepnotansuv] by roadburner Jul 13, 2009 (10:43 am)
Replying to: jeepnotansuv (Jul 12, 2009 7:59 am) Excellent points. I never can understand why people expect a Wrangler to handle like a Boxster S and ride like a Park Avenue. That said, I have a 1999 TJ fitted with Bilstein HD shocks and I don't think it rides all that bad- and neither do my wife and son. To hear some people talk you'd think Wranglers came with tires filled with concrete, and that simply isn't the case. Yes, it's a bit noisy at speed, but the heater easily copes with sub-zero temps and the A/C works equally well in the summer heat. The only thing I'd even remotely consider replacing it with would be a Defender 90, and they are simply too expensive for my 4X4 needs and tastes. Replies to this message: mac24 (Jul 14, 2009 2:31 am)
#32 of 32 Re: Know what you are writing about before keying it in... [roadburner] by mac24 Jul 14, 2009 (2:31 am)
Replying to: roadburner (Jul 13, 2009 10:43 am) The only thing I'd even remotely consider replacing it with would be a Defender 90, and they are simply too expensive for my 4X4 needs and tastes. I agree. The Defender 90 is probably the most similar in terms of both size and spec out there. Both have evolved in a similar manner, with a transition to coils after many years on leaf springs, and the options of large and small gas engines but with the Land Rover having also had the option of a diesel for many years. The Defender is only expensive here because of its rarity. In the UK they're as common and comparably priced to the way Wranglers are here.