Article Comments - Long-Term Test: 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4x4

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Article comments for Long-Term Test: 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4x4 - One 4x4 leaves the Inside Line long-term test fleet and another arrives in its place. Welcome the 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara. Let the one-year road test begin. (more)

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#18 of 32 Not an SUV? by porscheag Jul 11, 2008 (9:52 am)
I myself have an '08 Unlimited Rubicon and consider it an SUV. It is a Sport-Utility-Vehicle. There are many other "mainstream SUVs" out there that aren't capable of any type of off-roading or trail riding due to their excessive weights and/or low clearance which leaves the "sport" part out of SUV. My SUV can go offroad and demolish almost anything that tries to follow. It can also haul cargo including my MTN bikes, Jet Skies, & Kayak. It can also seat 5 and drive in any type of weather you throw at it. Now tell me, why don't you guys consider it an SUV again?
#19 of 32 Re: Consumer Reports [waterdr] by porscheag Jul 11, 2008 (10:41 am)
Replying to: waterdr (Mar 09, 2008 6:28 pm) If you choose to make decisions in your life like these because of the Consumer Reports says, I feel bad for you. You must live a very boring, dull life. Consumer reports is the worst publication out in my opinion. Full of inaccuracies and bad opinions. I read that article you mentioned about a month after I baught my Rubicon. I almost laughed out loud after reading it. It just goes to show how little experience they have when it comes to reviewing anything other than toasters and dishwashers. Im so happy I wasn't like you and made my vehicle buying decision based on what CR wrote. I'm having a great time with my Jeep and plan to keep it at the end of my term. Replies to this message: bowmanwheeler (Jul 11, 2008 2:52 pm) roadburner (Jul 12, 2008 6:43 am)
#20 of 32 by bowmanwheeler Jul 11, 2008 (2:52 pm)
Replying to: porscheag (Jul 11, 2008 10:41 am) Twits! What other vehicle on earth can be immediately cruised with the top off? Doors off! Windshield down on the beach? What other vehicle can, in stock form, pass level 2 trails with ease? Only 1. Thank the automotive gods that Jeep didn't make just another SUV, cause that's what the world needs (thankyou thankou thankyou!). Xterra? Please. It's not even in the . . . ahh who cares, not worth the words. The FJ, hmm, not bad, nice engine, cool looks, but IFS? Not good. Gimme 2 solid axles, a bumpy ride, the wind in my hair and a unshakable smile. You clearly don't get it.
#21 of 32 Edmonds does not understand off-roaders. by ibjeepr Jul 11, 2008 (3:50 pm)
Highway noise too loud? It's a convertable, FJ and others ar not and no you can not compare the hard top to a non convertable either. Handling and Performance poor? Could be picked up a notch but weaker off roader's such as FJ and others will always be better. I opt towards off-road prowess regardless of how much time i spend on road. How about you bash a miata for its poor off-road ability but excellent on road feel. Frankly, I'll keep my '08 Wrangler 2 door. There is room for improvement on road but it still kicks any ugly FJ or other soft roaders a$$.
#23 of 32 Well... by albook Jul 12, 2008 (6:23 am)
I understand that road performance isn't great, but let's not even bring the Nissan or Toyota into this. Those vehicles don't even commpare in capability to what the Wrangler can do. And neither looks as good.
#24 of 32 Re: Consumer Reports [porscheag] by roadburner Jul 12, 2008 (6:43 am)
Replying to: porscheag (Jul 11, 2008 10:41 am) If you choose to make decisions in your life like these because of the Consumer Reports says, I feel bad for you. You must live a very boring, dull life. Consumer reports is the worst publication out in my opinion. Full of inaccuracies and bad opinions. I agree. How could you trust them? They even recommend Bose speakers. I'm at the point where I thoroughly reconsider my opinion if CR likes something that I like...
#25 of 32 Not an off-roader, not a soft-roader, not an anything-roader. by adamgreen Jul 14, 2008 (6:14 pm)
Much as I enjoyed renting the "Unlimited," it's real limitations were obvious before we got to the beach, let alone off road or the various excursions on sealed roads at anything above 30 mph. Jeep has not yet figured out how to build a "soft roader" and while this Unlimited idea is a great objective, it misses on the "Trail Rated" side of things (it doesn't get along the Rubicon very well at all) and it's not a fun way to get to the trail head to start the journey. I look forward to Jeep putting the best of all there vehicles together to bring the Unlimited to a point where it deserves the reputation of the brand.
#26 of 32 Re: I WANT TO KNOW ONE THING.... [colorado1974] by intoler8 Jul 14, 2008 (6:36 pm)
Replying to: colorado1974 (Jul 10, 2008 9:04 pm) I agree with you 100%. I am 6ft 5in tall and would never be able to own such small vehicles such as a miata or 911. I just don't fit. Like you, I also like the bumpy ride, the way it sits higher than all other vehicles, it;s minimalistic interior made for simplicity and reduced wear and tear. The seats are very comfortable, the best I have sat in of any truck/4X4. And the unlimited powertrain warranty can't be beat. Ask GM and Toyota if they will guarantee their product this long. Plus, I like the rugged looks of the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. I get tons of compliments on how cool mine looks (Jeep Green Sahara Unlimited 4X4, Khaki interior/top and MyGig, it's loaded). I plan on getting American Racing Mojave wheels in Black teflon to give it a more military look. If someone says it is not as refined as Brand X, etc, they need to understand that it was never made to be a luxury SUV. I always use the analogy that the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited is the swiss army knife of vehicles. While it can do many things well (and almost anything), it will never be all things (a luxury car, give the best ride, be a Mercedes, etc). I am accepting of it being built for ruggedness and abuse while sacrificing the luxury of leather, smooth ride, etc. In AZ, you need a rugged vehicle. Roads are not that great, lots of dirt roads, rocks, dust, etc. It takes the abuse and keeps going. If you want a luxury jeep that drives better, get a Jeep Grand Cherokee or Range Rover, but for the money, you can't beat this vehicle. I am keeping mine forever!!!
#27 of 32 Don't buy the Wrangler if . . . by bowmanwheeler Jul 16, 2008 (1:49 pm)
If you don't know what RTI is. If you don't know what approach and departure angles are. If you don't know what breakover angles are. If you don't know what locking differentials are. If you don't know what your water fjording depth is. There are literally dozens of people hauling SUVs out there that pamper you at 85 mph on the fwy (got one - a Saturn Outlook) but the Wrangler is not one of them. If you're looking for comfort, steer clear, this is not your ride (though it's easily the most comfortable, refined Wrangler yet, by a good margin). The Wrangler was and is the one and only true get-you-anywhere vehicle made and Jeep is selling every one of them at full pop and trying to figure out how to add a third shift to crank these hits out. If you want to cut it down for being rough or noisy or unrefined, you'd be right and are looking at/bought the wrong vehicle. Too bad. On the other hand, the Jeep engineer's did the miraculous. They took the great TJ (previous generation) and made it better in every empirical way including off road specifications and preformance. Furthermore, they did the near impossible by ensuring that the Wrangler soul was not lost in the process. I had a rough, hot, bumpy, loud, and very capable YJ. My new JK is truly a remarkable improvement. When the road gets slippery, rocky and ugly, you'll think of this post and the Wrangler you should have been in.