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Mazda CX-9 Real World MPG

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MPG different with towing package? by gogators93
Jul 04, 2008 (8:54 am)
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I know there is a differenct in AWD vs FWD but what about if you get the towing package? We just bough a new 2008 CX-9 GT two days ago with a towing package to tow our sportbikes up to the mountains and to do track days. We haven't filled up the tank yet so I have no idea what mileage we are getting yet. But the towing package does include a special ECU program. Just wondering what the they do the computer and if it affects gas mileage?
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Re: MPG different with towing package? [gogators93] by ceric
Jul 05, 2008 (12:29 am)
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Replying to: gogators93 (Jul 04, 2008 8:54 am)

From other forum, people with tow package have reported similar MPG. Tow packages includes larger tranny cooler and higher volume of coolant (bigger radiator) and ECU programming (and of course, the 25-28lb hitch). The ECU probably only differs when the load is high (such as towing).
 
One indicator I use regularly is that when the fuel indicator at the 1/2 mark, if I get 150miles on the trip meter, I will get about 16mpg at the end.
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Re: MPG different with towing package? [gogators93] by skc7
Jul 05, 2008 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: gogators93 (Jul 04, 2008 8:54 am)

I also have a 2008 AWD GT with tow package, but haven't towed anything yet. I did not necessarily want the tow package, but the rest of the options, color, etc., was what I wanted. To date with 4700 miles I get 15-16 mpg with all city driving, 20-23 mpg with all highway driving, and 18-19 mpg with about a 50/50 mix of city and highway. That's about what the EPA sticker states. I'm not disappointed as this is probably about the nicest driving CUV as there is and I've driven the MDX. Acadia, Veracruz, and others. Nothing came as close as the CX-9 to the sporty handling and steering that I was accustom to and I was driving a G35 Infiniti which is probably one of the nicest driving sport sedans as there is on the road.
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Re: MPG different with towing package? [skc7] by gogators93
Jul 05, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: skc7 (Jul 05, 2008 5:20 am)

I have to agree with the driving. The CX-9 drives great and we traded in our BMW 530i which drove smooth as glass. The 20 inch wheels provide a little more feedback through the road but I like that to be honest and driving a corvette as my car, I'm used to firmer rides.
 
Glad to know the tow package doesn't affect the mileage as we will probably on be towing with it a few times a year but had to have it.
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Hopefully by cx7lover
Jul 07, 2008 (9:36 am)
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People realize the tank has at least 2.5 gallons left when the light comes on.
 
This is the key in calculating MPG.
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Re: Hopefully [cx7lover] by steve_ HOST
Jul 07, 2008 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: cx7lover (Jul 07, 2008 9:36 am)

I must be missing something - the amount left in the tank shouldn't matter.
 
What the mpg calculator (either on the car or the one in your head) should be figuring is how many miles you drove on the number of gallons you used.
 
So, if you drove 200 miles since your last fill up and you filled up today and put ten gallons in, you got 20 mpg no matter if there were 2 or 5 gallons left in your gas tank when you pulled into the service station.
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Re: Hopefully [steve_] by ceric
Jul 07, 2008 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 07, 2008 10:07 am)

Steve,
Over the years, I have found that the "click-off" point at every pump is different (especially at different stations). You will see some variation with the click-off method when measuring MPG. However, if you do it over a long period of time, it is acurate.
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Re: Hopefully [ceric] by steve_ HOST
Jul 07, 2008 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: ceric (Jul 07, 2008 5:50 pm)

I have 125,000 miles of fill-ups on my van, and I could skip entering a whole tank in my spreadsheet at this point and barely affect the lifetime mpg on it.
 
I still don't see what difference filling up with 2.5 or 5 or 10 gallons in the tank has to do with calculating your mileage though.
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use of ScanGaugeII by ceric
Aug 04, 2008 (3:31 pm)
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Hi, All:
I have installed a ScanGaugeII on my CX9 for about 1000 miles now. I am here to report my findings. I used the ScanGauge as the trip computer that is missing on our CX9 (the 2009 model shall have it!)
On my CX9 GT AWD (loaded with accessories and options - saved DVD entertainment system), I found that
- it is easy to get 22 mpg with CX9 on highway. On my trip to Sacramento (a bit hilly on some portion of the roads), at 70-75 mph I was able to get 22 mpg w/o much effort.
- it is no so easy to get 15mpg on city that full of lights and stop signs. Unless you can time lights perfectly and acceleration so gently (to the extent that does not piss off your fellow drivers), it would be hard to get 15mpg on this heavy CX9 with short 1st gear (4.15 ratio). With some try and error, I am able to do it now with help of ScanGauge to show me the instant MPG. The idle easy kills the MPG you tried so hard to improve. A red light auto-shutdown and start (like in hybrids) would be nice.
I did try to drive it like what I did to my BMW, I consistently get 10-12mpg on city street. This what a heavy vehicle with short 1st gear can do to your MPG. It revs hard to get you off line (zoom-zoom).
 
Overall, since my commute is a mix of city and highway, I was getting around 16mpg. With the help of ScanGauge (to change my driving habits), I am consistently getting around 17mpg. As I said, there is not much you need to do on highway other than maintaining constant speed (at whatever you desire). The trick is to be gentle and smart on city streets.
 
Of course, what I found is not ground breaking. It is all common sense, really. However, if you are getting 13mpg now, you should know what is wrong now....
 
P.S. I have K&N filer in my airbox. I will change it back to OE filter and see what happen to the MPG.
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Re: use of ScanGaugeII [ceric] by blueru
Aug 04, 2008 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: ceric (Aug 04, 2008 3:31 pm)

Hi.
 
I have been contemplating purchasing a Scan Gauge II for our CX-9 since it does not have a mileage computer (ridiculous on a $30,000 + vehicle!). Would you say it is worth the money? We recently moved from OH to Eastern PA and even going through the mountains at an average speed of 65 - 70, we averaged close to 26 MPG! We were in SHOCK! Anyway, just wanted to let you know if you do drive with a conscientious effort, it is possible to get noticeably better mileage (~18/19 in city, 24-26 highway). Please let me know about the Scan Gauge.

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