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Replying to: lemko (Nov 14, 2008 1:29 pm) ummm.... doesn't that mean its free? Or they are paying someone to take it? hell, even I'd buy it for THAT price. edit: awww... heck. Thought I was in the Project Cars forum. ;P |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Nov 14, 2008 11:25 am) Again, GM was losing money before this credit crisis. They haven't reported a profit since 2004. GM's management needs to look in the mirror to find the blame. |
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Nov 14, 2008 12:43 pm) |
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Okay, let try again to post the article: (rather overblown title but you know, it's journalism) DETROIT MUST DIE
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 14, 2008 2:33 pm) Good luc, GM. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 14, 2008 2:33 pm)  Yeah, he has a LOT of guts writing that in a San Francisco paper thousands of miles away from Detroit! I'd like to drop him in the middle of a UAW convention and have him repeat what he said in that article! They'd tear him apart like a school of piranhas!
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 14, 2008 3:35 pm)  This is the Internet, he might not be in San Francisco at all. But I do agree, despite his very good points he did seem a bit cavalier about OTHER people losing their jobs. I'm not sure the UAW is particularly proud of what they build. I'm not sure they care one way or the other. I dunno. Anybody from the UAW lurking around here? |
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If I told you how I really felt, I'd be banned forever. The first sentence of his article already had me fuming and he even included such icon as the Corvette and Mustang as examples. First of all, American cars are nowhere near as bad as the hyperbole in his opening sentence. Heck replace the names of the cars to "Camry, Accord, Sonata, CRV, Civic and Sentra" and American to "Asian" and you'll get exactly how I feel about those alien brands! They are the epitome of tedium and boredom! They're as palatable as unflavored styrofoam rice cakes. I wouldn't buy any of those dull Asian cars if they came with a pyramid of gold bullion in the trunk, ten thousand dollars of cash in the glovebox, and an ashtray full of flawless diamonds! Don't even get me started on his callous lack of regard for the auto workers and their families, the economy at large, and the United States in general. My head might explode like that dude in the movie "Scanners."
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are related to our domestic auto industry. Can we aford to lose that? I too have many issues with the prolonged mismanagement of our Big Three. I bought many of those issues in the past. (Can you say Mustang II, EXP and Tempo to keep the list short?) But this old coot's concern for his own welfare (not to mention the millions of folks who would lose their means of financial support) gives him more than just a bit of pause. Do we need our own auto makers? As much as we need any similarly sized sector of our economy, I would argue. The government should help these folks through hard times. In the process we have a unique opportunity to reshape the industries priorities and push them to adopt change that will accelerate their adaptation to a post peak oil world. This is my own personal view, and of course could or could not be accurate, since my perspective is that of a mere consumer of the product of this industry.
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 14, 2008 4:25 pm) Of course comparing an Aveo to a Lexus or BMW is hardly fair but....you have to admit, American cars have been losing market share year after year after year. Given that cold hard fact, which is sad to say not refutable, are we then to assume: a. foreign car buyers are all stupid. b. American cars are increasingly non-competitive. c. the reason for the loss of market share is a mystery unknown to us. |
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