Last post on Oct 14, 2011 at 1:34 PM
You are in the Honda S2000
What is this discussion about?
Honda S2000, Saturn Sky, Pontiac Solstice, Convertible
#13 of 18 Re: hold on hold on give the u.s.a. a chance [solstice375]
Nov 12, 2007 (5:44 am)
Thanks for mentioning that the Miata is legendary for it's very slick shifter and proven bulletproof reliability.
Also, I'm sure it was an innocent oversight, but you forgot to mention that the GXP weighs 500 lbs more and costs $5000 more than a Miata, and also lacks the Miata's telepathic steering, neutral chassis, large trunk, high quality materials, and simple/quick operating cloth top.
What happened to GM's promise of a world-class, lightweight, affordable, back-to-basics sports car? Instead, we got a "traditional" American sports car - mediocre parts-bin mechanicals/underpinnings covered up with good looks and horsepower.
#14 of 18 Re: hold on hold on give the u.s.a. a chance [fedlawman]
Nov 12, 2007 (6:12 am)
Bob Lutz had a pricepoint in mind when he came up with the concept. That pricepoint was a lot lower once the beancounters got their say.
"squeeky little japanese toys" LOL, My S is going on 4 years old and it doesn't squeek on bit. Still tight as a drum.
#15 of 18 Re: hold on hold on give the u.s.a. a chance [anythngbutgm]
Nov 12, 2007 (6:53 am)
The target was under $20K IIRC.
Americans have been describing Japanese cars with these terms for 30+ years - mostly out of insecurity. I'd feel insecure too if I spent $30,000 on a Solstice.
Jan 10, 2010 (2:34 pm)
Well for me this is not really a true comparison of apples to apples in terms of torque/hp. I mean your comparing turbo vs straight motor. First off any paper you read, any dyno you use will show you that an S2000 with a turbo would leave the poor gxp in the dust, especially mixed with tight turns and cornering. While I do like both vehicles' exterior, I must say that the gxp seems to rounded for me which makes it more of chick car, the sky looks better but its saturn, and honda is very sleek and has more appeal IMO. The interior of both are really nice while the GXP might be more stylish in terms of some modern updating its not leaps and bounds past the s2000. Acutally the s2000 has reliability inside and out, show me where the gxp has that???
Either way the end result is personal preference, with pontiacs now shutdown I would have to say the end result should go to honda, especially since 2009 is the last year.
#17 of 18 Re: My Two Cents [disturbed1160]
Jan 11, 2010 (7:17 am)
hahah... they've been saying that since, what, 2004? I bought mine in 2007 because "I heard it was the last year." I only wish I had picked one up sooner. Yes, it is loud, yes, it is expensive to operate, but it is oh so worth it to drive if you have some twisty roads. On an open freeway, you can help but cut loose and open it up. It is so stable even at higher speeds. I do think the Sky does have some great looks and I'll miss them, but I'll take the lines of my S2000 (with it more usable trunk) over any Sky/Soltice.
 By expensive, I mean factoring in the cost of replacement tires, premium fuel, insurance, etc.
 You should always drive the posted speed and wear the proper safety gear. Driving high speed should only be done on an approved raceway or where permitted by law.
Just my disclaimers.
#18 of 18 S2000 Pricing update
Oct 14, 2011 (1:34 pm)
As of today, a 2007 S2000 is worth $2,500 more than a Saturn RedLine and $4,000 more than a Pontiac Solstice GXP.
Car-and-Driver also did a comparison of a used S2000 to a new Miata and called the S2000 the only roadster to "out-fun" the Miata. They also called the S the "superbike of roadsters."
Case closed. S2000 wins. The most fun you can have in a car with your clothes on.