Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5

271 messages,  Last post on Jul 30, 2008 at 1:09 PM

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What is this discussion about? Kia Rondo, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda MAZDA5, Car Buying, Wagon

#266 of 271 Re: we tried the Rondo but Mazda5 won out [coolmazda5] by riproy

Jun 26, 2008 (11:41 am)

Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jun 24, 2008 5:47 pm)
Coolmazda5,
Are the gear ratios the same on both your 5s? One thing i find is that the RPMs are quite high when running at 100kph relative to other 4 cylinder cars i have driven. Leaves me wishing for a 6th gear.

#267 of 271 Re: we tried the Rondo but Mazda5 won out [riproy] by coolmazda5

Jun 26, 2008 (1:34 pm)

Replying to: riproy (Jun 26, 2008 11:41 am)
Yes indeed, they seem high but I don't drive at that speed for long distances. As a matter of fact I like the torque at that RPM range, no need to downshift when going uphill!
 
Now, I remember seeing a post of a person in Denmark with a 6-speed 2.0L Gas (not diesel) Mazda5 and the RPMs were very similar to the 5-speed:
 
6th speed (Manual, Europe, 2.0L): 120km/hr ~3400RPM
5th speed (Manual, NA, 2.3L): 75MPH, ~120km/hr ~3500RPM

#268 of 271 3-d row for 6ft tall: Rondo vs Mazda by uzv

Jul 16, 2008 (12:05 pm)

I'm 6 ft tall and currently own Dodge Caravan (short ver) with 7 seats and looking to replace with smaller but 6-7 seat.
1.
Visited Mazda dealer and played just with Mazda5 seats for 15 min:
Adjusted seats to the BEST possible sitting for myself (6ft tall) in ALL rows (1,2,3)
The result:
1 row - good
2 row- so-so : problem with feet (does not fit well under 1 row seat)
3 row - bad : feet just does not feet under 2nd row seat
                     There is solution but for only one foot - to stuck it between
                     2nd row seats (other foot has to be cut of to be comfortable)
So Mazda5 3d row - for kids ONLY.
2.
Visited KIA dealer and played just with Rondo seats for the same 15 min:
Adjusted seats to the BEST possible sitting for myself (6ft tall) in ALL rows (1,2,3)
The result:
1 row - good
2 row- good
3 row - Ok : head is very close to ceiling
So Rondo 3d row - Ok for 6ft adults
IMPORTANT: the main thing is to readjust ALL rows to achieve good result in each row

#270 of 271 Mazda 5 Diesel by wjtinatl

Jul 16, 2008 (5:33 pm)

Would love to see Mazda offer the 5 with the Ford Duratorq 2.2L diesel. This engine delivers 175 hp/295 lb ft torque and delivers 40 mpg in Euro trim. Couple that with the 6 speed autobox and there wouldn't be a better combination of efficient space utilization, economy and fun to drive out there. I'd gladly pay $1500 over the 2.3L currently offered. Otherwise, this is a fantastic vehicle!

#271 of 271 Kia Carens by ateixeira

Jul 30, 2008 (1:09 pm)

Found this rather amusing, the Rondo is called the "Carens" in Brazil, where it also costs R$79,900, or about $51 grand at today's exchange rates.
 
Crazy, huh? Here it's a price-leader, there it's kind of upscale.
 
A Kia Sportage costs only slightly less, a Hyundai Tucson is about the same price.
 
Rondo owners should count their blessings!
 
The Santa Fe is sold as a loaded leather-lined AWD model only but costs a whopping R$149,000, over $94 grand!
 
The RAV4 costs even more than that! Yikes!
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