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Kia Rondo, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda MAZDA5, Car Buying, Wagon
#230 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [bobw3]
Dec 01, 2007 (10:52 am)
I love the silver color.
#231 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [eilros]
Dec 03, 2007 (8:44 am)
I understand about the 3rd row, but even the 2nd row of passengers look cramped!! Where's the leg room??????????? I still prefer the Kia Rondo.
#232 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [kech]
Dec 03, 2007 (9:11 am)
Not sure if I follow. Are there any pics of adult people seating on a Rondo (7adults on all rows, including 2nd row middle bench) we can take a look at?
I agree, it is not a comfortable limo type space but I don't see them cramped in there.
I've seen 7 on a Chevy Suburban, and that seems OK, but for smaller cars, good luck.
#233 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [coolmazda5]
Dec 03, 2007 (9:23 am)
Coolmazda5, setting the legroom issue aside, Montreal is currently under a severe winter storm warning and have received close to 25cm and counting. I had no problem plowing through the white stuff due to the Rondo's standard equiped ESC and Traction Control. I seriously doubt that the mazda5 could even match that performance.
#234 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [kech]
Dec 03, 2007 (9:40 am)
I've seen some interior pics from Kia but I swear they're photochopped.
In person, you fold the 3rd row and the backrest basically contacts the 2nd row.
There's only enough leg room if you move the 2nd row forward (as is the case with the Mazda5).
Found some sample photos.
Kia makes it look HUGE here, probably by moving the other 2 rows forward:
Yet here's another photos that shows how tiny that rear area actually is when the 2nd row is all the way back:
You only have a lot of room if the 2nd row is slid forward, and that may even force the 1st row occupants to slide forward, too.
#235 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [ateixeira]
Dec 03, 2007 (9:41 am)
Replying to myself here, but notice the driver's seat, how it's moved forward in relation to the steering wheel, which is probably too close in that position.
#236 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [ateixeira]
Dec 03, 2007 (10:02 am)
If you call 31.7cu.ft. with the 3rd row down not much room compared to 15cu.ft. with the Mazda5. You have to lay flat both the 2nd and 3rd row seats to accomplish 30cu.ft. of space within the Mazda5 vs 73.4cu.ft. in the Rondo with the same config. There is no comparison!
#237 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [kech]
Dec 03, 2007 (10:35 am)
Very good observation, but off-topic. I would like to see some pics with people inside the Rondo to really evaluate the space (not the published specs). Again, it is not just about the Rondo, it is about any smaller vehicle with a 3rd row seat (i.e. a RAV4). As I mentioned here some time back, if I need to seat 6 average size adults in my car at least 90% of the time I would have gone for a Suburban, a Honda Odyssey or a Toyota Sienna. Since that is not the case, when I have a full house (including a large stroller in the back of the 3rd row) I don't mind the comfort too much.
With regards to snow, I also live in a cold area and I've seen a lot of powerful SUVs with all the nice toys stranded (ESC, AWD, Traction Control, etc.), so it is not the toys added in many instances, is knowing how to drive under those conditions.
#238 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [coolmazda5]
Dec 03, 2007 (11:00 am)
It's all about personal choice. Both vehicles have similar characteristics in all categories. Some people associate the Kia brand with reliability issues and some are concerned with various features offered with the Kia and not with the Mazda5. All in all, both vehicles have very good reviews that cannot be ignored. You're alright in my book coolmazda5. BTW, nice PICS!!
#239 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [kech]
Dec 03, 2007 (11:21 am)
I still think the Rondo is small, though. The Mazda5 being even smaller doesn't change that opinion.
Any how, it is nice that Kia offers small (Rondo), medium (SWB Sedona), and large (LWB Sedona).
Then again, my reference point is a Sienna. There's nearly 100 cubic feet behind the 2nd row, which means 5 people plus tons of stuff.