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Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5

271 messages,  Last post on Jul 30, 2008 at 1:09 PM

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What is this discussion about? Kia Rondo, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda MAZDA5, Car Buying, Wagon

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#260 of 271 Re: we tried the Rondo but Mazda5 won out [bobw3] by mrs_t

Jun 02, 2008 (7:17 pm)

Replying to: bobw3 (Jun 02, 2008 2:49 pm)
Glad to answer your question! I was thinking the same thing which is why dh decided to sit in the back to test it out. He also wanted to compare leg room and comfort. It wasn't even all that hot out... just not as much air circulating all the way in the back. I think it would be even worse if there were people sitting in the middle seats.

#262 of 271 Re: we tried the Rondo but Mazda5 won out [ateixeira] by riproy

Jun 20, 2008 (2:01 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 02, 2008 8:56 am)
Aside from the 5 speed auto, what are the other powertrain upgrades? I notice the manual trans models have improved ratings too. What is responsible?

#263 of 271 Re: we tried the Rondo but Mazda5 won out [riproy] by coolmazda5

Jun 21, 2008 (4:56 pm)

Replying to: riproy (Jun 20, 2008 2:01 pm)
Owning an 06 and an 08 I don't see a critical difference (both Manual) but the 08 seems more efficient overall (feels a little bit smoother as well). I'm assuming the improvements are mostly 3 years of engine fine-tuning and PCM enhancements.

#264 of 271 Re: we tried the Rondo but Mazda5 won out [coolmazda5] by ateixeira

Jun 24, 2008 (1:41 pm)

Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jun 21, 2008 4:56 pm)
Well, it was the automatics that got the major upgrade.

#265 of 271 Re: we tried the Rondo but Mazda5 won out [ateixeira] by coolmazda5

Jun 24, 2008 (5:47 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 24, 2008 1:41 pm)
Agree, but I was focusing on the 2nd part of the question though:
 
I notice the manual trans models have improved ratings too. What is responsible?

#266 of 271 Re: we tried the Rondo but Mazda5 won out [coolmazda5] by riproy

Jun 26, 2008 (11:41 am)

Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jun 24, 2008 5:47 pm)
Coolmazda5,
Are the gear ratios the same on both your 5s? One thing i find is that the RPMs are quite high when running at 100kph relative to other 4 cylinder cars i have driven. Leaves me wishing for a 6th gear.

#267 of 271 Re: we tried the Rondo but Mazda5 won out [riproy] by coolmazda5

Jun 26, 2008 (1:34 pm)

Replying to: riproy (Jun 26, 2008 11:41 am)
Yes indeed, they seem high but I don't drive at that speed for long distances. As a matter of fact I like the torque at that RPM range, no need to downshift when going uphill!
 
Now, I remember seeing a post of a person in Denmark with a 6-speed 2.0L Gas (not diesel) Mazda5 and the RPMs were very similar to the 5-speed:
 
6th speed (Manual, Europe, 2.0L): 120km/hr ~3400RPM
5th speed (Manual, NA, 2.3L): 75MPH, ~120km/hr ~3500RPM

#268 of 271 3-d row for 6ft tall: Rondo vs Mazda by uzv

Jul 16, 2008 (12:05 pm)

I'm 6 ft tall and currently own Dodge Caravan (short ver) with 7 seats and looking to replace with smaller but 6-7 seat.
1.
Visited Mazda dealer and played just with Mazda5 seats for 15 min:
Adjusted seats to the BEST possible sitting for myself (6ft tall) in ALL rows (1,2,3)
The result:
1 row - good
2 row- so-so : problem with feet (does not fit well under 1 row seat)
3 row - bad : feet just does not feet under 2nd row seat
                     There is solution but for only one foot - to stuck it between
                     2nd row seats (other foot has to be cut of to be comfortable)
So Mazda5 3d row - for kids ONLY.
2.
Visited KIA dealer and played just with Rondo seats for the same 15 min:
Adjusted seats to the BEST possible sitting for myself (6ft tall) in ALL rows (1,2,3)
The result:
1 row - good
2 row- good
3 row - Ok : head is very close to ceiling
So Rondo 3d row - Ok for 6ft adults
IMPORTANT: the main thing is to readjust ALL rows to achieve good result in each row

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