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What is this discussion about? Kia Rondo, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda MAZDA5, Car Buying, Wagon


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IFCAR comparison by medicineman
Oct 21, 2007 (12:44 am)
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The Institute For Consumer Automotive Research (never heard of them before, but I'm not American) compared nine rather disparate vehicles under the category, Inexpensive 6-Passenger Vehicles. The website states, "These nine represent an odd grouping, but they share the merits of additional passenger capacity under $20,000, using CarsDirect target prices for vehicles with an automatic transmission." There will probably be great discussion over the sanity of grouping these vehicles together, but hey, I'm just the messenger. So which is the best budget-priced passenger hauler? Here are the results:
 
1. Dodge Caravan
2. Kia Rondo
3. Dodge Grand Caravan
4. Chevrolet Uplander
5. Mazda5
6. Chevrolet Silverado Classic
7. Nissan Titan
8. Chevrolet Impala
9. Chevrolet Colorado
 
(BTW, for the zero or one of you who might be wondering why I haven't been posting in these comparative threads like I used to, it's because I simply had run out of things to say. When I started telling increasingly irrelevant anecdotes--much like this one --I knew it was time to move on.)
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Re: IFCAR comparison [medicineman] by timtlm
Oct 23, 2007 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: medicineman (Oct 21, 2007 12:44 am)

OK, I have to say this article is completely out of line. I understand comparing all 6 passenger vehicles under $20K, but at least half of these vehicles start at over $20K and are a max of 5 passengers. Plus, there are a number of other inconsistancies with this article.
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Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [coolmazda5] by ateixeira
Oct 24, 2007 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Oct 17, 2007 9:08 am)

I heard the 5 was getting a 5th ratio for the automatic tranny, along with better highway mileage. Is that true?
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Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [ateixeira] by coolmazda5
Oct 24, 2007 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 24, 2007 8:21 am)

Yes indeed, which is very good news as it has been highlighted often by auto-tranny potential buyers (I drive manual so no trouble here ). A Wall Street Journal review is reporting 1-2 MPG improvements (22MPG City-28MPG Highway I believe) over the 2006-2007 4AT, yet to be honest I think some more realistic numbers will come until the 08s hit the road .
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Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [coolmazda5] by conwelpic
Oct 24, 2007 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Oct 24, 2007 11:28 am)

does anyone know when the 2008 model will be available in the US and Canada. At the present both websites are still only showing 2007 info.
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Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Oct 24, 2007 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Oct 24, 2007 1:17 pm)

Would you mean the official Mazda USA and Mazda CA sites?
 
According to Kicking Tires, the cars will hit the dealerships Winter 2007 in the US. I'm assuming Canada is very close to that given how they are shipped from Japan. Now, they will be "officially" announced in the Mazda site Mid November (it seems).
 
Winter is a long season though...
 
Here is the source:
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2007/10/ch-ch-changes-2.html
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Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [conwelpic] by eilros
Oct 24, 2007 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Oct 24, 2007 1:17 pm)

conwelpic, I was told by a Mazda USA rep that the US website will be updated with 2008 info on November 14th. My local Mazda dealer said they expect to start receiving the 2008 in late Jan-early Feb.
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Cars.com Names Top Cars for City Drivers. 2008 Mazda5 is included by coolmazda5
Oct 24, 2007 (2:21 pm)
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Talking about weird comparisons, but this one makes more sense though. The Mazda5 has an excellent turning ratio to maneuver (i.e. to park) and is not as a gas guzzler as other cars. 19MPG seems a low number, but I'm assuming purely heavy city driving.
 
There aren't many minivans that scream "city-friendly," but the Mazda5 takes the family-hauler concept and shrinks it to a manageable size that still has room for six. The 2008 model has a fresh look but retains its distinct Japanese edginess. Even though it's 20 inches shorter than a Honda Odyssey, the Mazda5 is still substantial, coming in at almost exactly the same length as a Toyota RAV4. Steering is sharp for tight parking maneuvers, and the ride is relatively smooth.
Length: 181.5 inches
Turning circle: 34.8 feet
Seats: 6
City MPG: 19

 
http://www.cars.com/go/about/us.jsp?section=P&content=rel&date=20071002
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Re: Cars.com Names Top Cars for City Drivers. 2008 Mazda5 is included [coolmazda5] by piast
Oct 25, 2007 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Oct 24, 2007 2:21 pm)

Mazda5......................Mitsubishi Outlander
Length: 181.5 inches............182.7 inches
Turning circle: 34.8 feet.......34.8 feet
Seats: 6 ................................7
City MPG: 19......................19 MPG City AWD, V6 Auto
                                22 MPG City AWD, New 08 trim- 4 cyl CVT(estimate)
 
 This is a comparison, you need at least 2 cars to do it.
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Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [coolmazda5] by ateixeira
Oct 25, 2007 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Oct 24, 2007 11:28 am)

Agreed - very good news. Kudos to Mazda for spending money where it counts.
 
Wonder if they'll improve the center console, too? Offer a 7 seat model?

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