Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5

Replying to: coolmazda5 (May 27, 2007 3:22 am)

Replying to: coolmazda5 (May 27, 2007 6:22 am)

Then I saw the title and I wondered: Why does the Rondo need to compare against the rest, Shouldn't the Mazda5 be compared against the rest instead?
 
That response is as biased as you can get.
 
Aside from the Rondo and Mazda5, the other three are all CUVs. Actually, I believe Kia advertises the Rondo as a crossover
 
FWIW, between the Rondo and the Mazda, both are great mini-MPVs. Rondo is more practical, Mazda5 is more sporty. If I was in the market for a minivan or mini-MPV, I would go with the Rondo for its purpose. Actually, all three of Kia vehicles (Rondo, Sedona SWB, Sedona LWB) are great products. Believe it or not, Kia is the only maker that has the minivan market covered from small to large...kudos!!

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joe97 replied:
That response is as biased as you can get
 
Thanks for the input, sounds reasonable, yet I believe you are not understanding the issue discussed earlier. If the thread shows on a Mazda5 forum, then the title makes it biased from the start . It only makes sense if the thread shows in a Rondo forum . The problem found is that it shows in multiple forums at once regardless of the car model primarily discussed.
 
For the rest of your reply: "It is all about individual preferences" (credit: member waygrabow).
 
For what is worth, I hope we can get some input from somebody who already has owned a Rondo for at least the time it has been in the market in the US. I believe the input would be more accurate (good or bad)

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Replying to: joe97 (May 28, 2007 7:28 am)

. I think I have replied more times during the weekend than during my whole tenure at Edmunds forums. OK OK, to the point:
 
Joe97 replied:
It does show up in both forums. It also shows up in SF, RAV4, Outlander, Car Shopping, and Wagon forums.
 
Exactly. That was my intended point. Please see my earlier reply (message #60) :
coolmazda5, "Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5" #60, 27 May 2007 7:22 am
 
What about I suggest a new title next time it's posted as shared: i.e. "Comparing Mini People Movers: Rondo, Outlander, Rav4, Santa Fe and Mazda5". I think that may motivate more readers to reply in a less biased way
 
Joe97 replied:
My point being, you said earlier Rondo wasn't even worth comparing with the rest...
 
Really? Where, if I could ask? I'm just a pro-Mazda5 guy, that's it
 
Joe97 replied:
I've spent extensive time in both the Mazda5 and the Rondo (that's my job). Thanks for discrediting my opinion, yes, I don't own either one.
 
Nope, I don't discredit opinions, I just don't agree with some of them, which is different . I believe I don't have the authority to discredit anyone on this arena. BTW, talking about car segments and acronyms, MAV (multi-activity vehicle) is also relevant for some of the cars listed
 
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Replying to: spoole (May 28, 2007 8:04 pm)

Replying to: spoole (May 28, 2007 8:04 pm)

I would suggest you also consider the 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander. Look at the pricepoint for the XLS trim with Navigation, HID headlights, Leather Seats, Sunroof, 650W Rockford Fosgate Sounds, decent mileage V6 MIVEC engine with 220 horses, On-the-fly selectable 4WD, 18" Alloy wheels, Auto climate aircon, Bluetooth handsfree, foldable 2nd and 3rd row seats, flap-fold tailgate, FAST Keyless entry-keyless start, MP3 Music Server, Sirius tuner with free 6 mos subscription among other things. Most members got this model and trim with all those options for 28,600 to 28,800 depending on the dealership. And even less with your trade-in.
 
Plus, get a 5yr new vehicle warranty, 10yr powertrain warranty, 5 yr free roadside assistance, and 7 yr rust through warranty.
 
So many good stuff for a lot less money if you ask me
 
For your research:
The Outlander forums are here: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f0d6490/
Another good online community here: http://outlander.freeforums.org
Read some more about the Outlander here: http://paxtech.blogspot.com/search/label/Outlander
For a comparison with the competition: http://www.outeverything.com/out/comparison.html
 
I'm not asking you to buy one, but rather take one for a test drive, and compare the power and handling with the rest of the competition. I think the car will sell itself if it's good enough.

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Replying to: rcpax (May 29, 2007 3:54 am)

Agree with rcpax. With all my earlier replies ("subliminal", youza! ), I did not mention that the Outlander (2007, the new model) took a 2nd place on my list.
 
I saw one the other day (it should have been the XLS then) and, apart for the clean interior design (looks very European), it had those steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters (a la Lancer). Mazda5 only offers those in Japan I believe. I know, I know, possibly your wife may never use them, but should be a good extra for the price (and a good motivation for you to drive it from time to time . A family car doesn't have to be boring to drive).
 
I have tried the paddle shifters through renting a Saturn Aura some days ago. It takes some time to get used to them and they make you consume more gas, but it is a fun-to-drive item. 5 yr free roadside assistance does not sound bad either. Family peace of mind if you ask)
 
Best of luck!

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