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Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5

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What is this discussion about? Kia Rondo, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda MAZDA5, Car Buying, Wagon

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#206 of 271 Re: Rondo/Mazda5 [coolmazda5] by taz16

Oct 15, 2007 (5:08 pm)

Replying to: coolmazda5 (Oct 14, 2007 6:36 pm)
Yes I agree with CoolMazda5 there are in the same category just like the Chevy HHR and the aging PT Cruiser(which can you believe has been in the same generation for 7 yrs now and probably wont be resigned until 09 or 2010!!!) and then by the way lets not the forget the Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe which basically are the same cars.(They are getting resigned next yr. as a 09 model along with the Corolla)
 
For 2009, Kia should offer in the Rondo the 3.3 liter V6 which is in the Santa Fe (lol) and Sonata and also the base Azera.
 
Mazda should put in MAzda5 the Ford sourced 3.0 V6 which is in the Mazda6 and the Tribute or how about this, put in its big bro CX-7 Turbo 4 Cylinder in it.(MazdaSpeed5 lol)
 
But thats probably just wishful thinking with both Crossovers for me.
 
IF they do that will help them greatly because the lack of power is one of their major complaints. Thats mostly due to their almost 2 1/2 ton curb weight

#207 of 271 Re: Rondo/Mazda5 [taz16] by bobw3

Oct 16, 2007 (6:30 am)

Replying to: taz16 (Oct 15, 2007 5:08 pm)
I'd rather see the Rondo & Mazda5 get better MPG...at least high 20s to low 30s average. They're currently only getting not much better than a full-size minivan or CUVs.

#208 of 271 Re: Rondo/Mazda5 [bobw3] by bgw

Oct 16, 2007 (1:33 pm)

Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 16, 2007 6:30 am)
My 2007 EX V6 7-seater has been getting 28-29 mpg on the highway, and 24-25 around town.

#209 of 271 Re: Rondo/Mazda5 [bgw] by taz16

Oct 16, 2007 (4:34 pm)

Replying to: bgw (Oct 16, 2007 1:33 pm)
Yup I agree with bgw, their gas mileage is actually good and comapare well with 4-Cyl compact and midsize cars, and thats just the V6 model, should the 4 should do even better than that.
Also like I mention before about fuel ecomony its good and both them weight as much as Small SUV's, but more frugal in gas, also the more stricted fuel regulations, that lower there fuel ecomony mpg as with mostly every other single automobile.

#210 of 271 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics by coolmazda5

Oct 17, 2007 (10:08 am)

Replying to: taz16 (Oct 16, 2007 4:34 pm)
More details and pics:
 
eilros, "Mazda5" #1206, 16 Oct 2007 7:03 pm
 
- 2nd row seat A/C vents
- Updated Central Console
- Very distinctive exterior new color

#211 of 271 Outlander tops Consumer Report "best" list. by piast

Oct 19, 2007 (7:28 am)

This is a copy of "carstalk" post from another tread on this forum:
" Consumer Report listed Mitsubishi Outlander as best small SUV choice for reliability. Honda tops Toyota, but no mention of Rav4, CR-V and Santa Fe...
Read article on http://www.mercurynews.com/drive/ci_7200769
then click on related story "Toyota slips behind rivals..."
  
Wagon/Minivan
Best: Pontiac Vibe, Scion xB
Worst: Chevrolet Uplander, Hyundai Entourage
 
Small SUV
Best: Honda Element, Mitsubishi Outlander
Worst: Dodge Nitro, Jeep Wrangler (four-door)
 
Mid-size SUV
Best: Toyota Highlander, Honda Pilot
Worst: Land Rover Range Rover, Land Rover Range Rover Sport

#212 of 271 IFCAR comparison by medicineman

Oct 21, 2007 (1:44 am)

The Institute For Consumer Automotive Research (never heard of them before, but I'm not American) compared nine rather disparate vehicles under the category, Inexpensive 6-Passenger Vehicles. The website states, "These nine represent an odd grouping, but they share the merits of additional passenger capacity under $20,000, using CarsDirect target prices for vehicles with an automatic transmission." There will probably be great discussion over the sanity of grouping these vehicles together, but hey, I'm just the messenger. So which is the best budget-priced passenger hauler? Here are the results:
 
1. Dodge Caravan
2. Kia Rondo
3. Dodge Grand Caravan
4. Chevrolet Uplander
5. Mazda5
6. Chevrolet Silverado Classic
7. Nissan Titan
8. Chevrolet Impala
9. Chevrolet Colorado
 
(BTW, for the zero or one of you who might be wondering why I haven't been posting in these comparative threads like I used to, it's because I simply had run out of things to say. When I started telling increasingly irrelevant anecdotes--much like this one --I knew it was time to move on.)

#213 of 271 Re: IFCAR comparison [medicineman] by timtlm

Oct 23, 2007 (11:17 am)

Replying to: medicineman (Oct 21, 2007 1:44 am)
OK, I have to say this article is completely out of line. I understand comparing all 6 passenger vehicles under $20K, but at least half of these vehicles start at over $20K and are a max of 5 passengers. Plus, there are a number of other inconsistancies with this article.

#214 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [coolmazda5] by ateixeira

Oct 24, 2007 (9:21 am)

Replying to: coolmazda5 (Oct 17, 2007 10:08 am)
I heard the 5 was getting a 5th ratio for the automatic tranny, along with better highway mileage. Is that true?

#215 of 271 Re: 2008 Mazda5 for North America. Updated Pics [ateixeira] by coolmazda5

Oct 24, 2007 (12:28 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 24, 2007 9:21 am)
Yes indeed, which is very good news as it has been highlighted often by auto-tranny potential buyers (I drive manual so no trouble here ). A Wall Street Journal review is reporting 1-2 MPG improvements (22MPG City-28MPG Highway I believe) over the 2006-2007 4AT, yet to be honest I think some more realistic numbers will come until the 08s hit the road .

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