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#21 of 271 Re: We have a Mazda 5 [tlong] by bodble2 May 19, 2007 (11:20 am)
Replying to: tlong (May 19, 2007 7:20 am) I think the Mazda5 is an excellent concept, except Mazda kinda missed the boat on a couple of features:   5-speed automatic; traction & stability control. A V6 would also help. I drove a rental for a few days and found the 4 cyl a bit thrashy went pushed. But I did like the tidy exterior dimensions, the sliding doors, and the seating configuration. Replies to this message: tlong (May 19, 2007 5:03 pm)
#22 of 271 Re: Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5 [bodble2] by driver56 May 19, 2007 (3:04 pm)
Replying to: bodble2 (May 17, 2007 12:24 pm) I'd certainly admit a sunroof is useless if it's not used. My last vehicle didn't have one, the vehicle previous to that did, and I now have one again. My wife and I both missed it, both of us not liking to feel too closed in when in the car. Good ventilation too. Now I don't always have to drive with the windows down.
#23 of 271 Re: We have a Mazda 5 [jflor] by tlong May 19, 2007 (5:00 pm)
Replying to: jflor (May 19, 2007 7:50 am) I wrote "fairly rare brand that isn't doing that well (at least in the states".   You wrote "This is not supported by facts"   Mitsubishi may be on an upswing, but I don't know how you can call less than one percent of the market in the US "doing that well", regardless of the small improvement. That is what I characterize as a "fairly rare brand".   "The bleeding has stopped and they've stabilized, and that's good, but they still are in a weak position in the U.S.," said Jim Hossack, vice president of the industry forecaster AutoPacific.   I'm not anti Mitsubishi, as I recommended one to my mother many years ago (and she bought it). She found that dealers were few and far between and after a number of years it was hard to find many places to get it repaired. Parts often took quite a while to receive.
#24 of 271 Re: We have a Mazda 5 [bodble2] by tlong May 19, 2007 (5:03 pm)
Replying to: bodble2 (May 19, 2007 11:20 am) You wrote: I think the Mazda5 is an excellent concept, except Mazda kinda missed the boat on a couple of features:    5-speed automatic; traction & stability control. A V6 would also help.   I agree on the 5 speed. I'm in CA and we don't get ice, until a few years ago we all survived without traction and stabilit control, so those features weren't deal breakers. We didn't want a V6 as we were looking for mileage more than power. Our previous minivan, a 1994 Mercury Villager, had the same horsepower in a heavier package, so it's all relative.
#25 of 271 Re: Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5 [dnatoday] by dodo2 May 19, 2007 (5:44 pm)
Replying to: dnatoday (May 18, 2007 4:22 pm) If he drives an Audi S6 I feel for him. He should be looking elsewhere. Acura MDX comes to my mind as the cheapest, fun to drive, 7 seater, premium SUV. Forget about Rondo, Santa Fe and like. On the cheap side of the spectrum, the Outlander is the only choice. Mazda CX7 doesn't have 7 seats, but the CX9 might be worth checking out. Replies to this message: csandste (May 19, 2007 10:01 pm) biscuit_xls (May 20, 2007 10:23 am) chelentano (May 20, 2007 4:49 pm) dodo2 (May 20, 2007 7:57 pm)
#26 of 271 Re: Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5 [dodo2] by csandste May 19, 2007 (10:01 pm)
Replying to: dodo2 (May 19, 2007 5:44 pm) I wish Mitsu well, I've owned three of their cars. However, compared to the Rondo or (especially) Santa Fe, the Outlander really lacks in interior quality. That's got to count for something. Replies to this message: biscuit_xls (May 20, 2007 10:23 am) chelentano (May 20, 2007 4:49 pm) dodo2 (May 20, 2007 7:57 pm)
#27 of 271 Re: Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5 [csandste] by biscuit_xls May 20, 2007 (10:23 am)
Replying to: csandste (May 19, 2007 10:01 pm) Depends. Personally I hate most fake wood interiors, so the Outlander interior looks much sportier and more appealing to me. The simple and modern design of the Outlander interior was a big reason that I chose it.
#28 of 271 If I cold jump in here for a by iluvmysephia1 May 20, 2007 (3:06 pm)
moment and second that emotion on Mitsu interiors. I haven't seen the new Outlander's interior in person but my new '08 Lancer GTS' interior could be described as simple and sporty(and yes, modern)as well. Therefore, I could be pretty easily persuaded that the '07 Mitsu Outlander's interior would look simple and modern. Of these SUV/crossovers I would hone my intense research down to the Outlander and the Rondo.   You can't really go wrong with a new Kia.
#29 of 271 Re: Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5 [csandste] by chelentano May 20, 2007 (4:49 pm)
Replying to: csandste (May 19, 2007 10:01 pm) interior in white leather looks pretty good to me:
#30 of 271 Re: Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5 [csandste] by dodo2 May 20, 2007 (7:57 pm)
Replying to: csandste (May 19, 2007 10:01 pm) The interior/exterior assessment is strictly a personal matter. I like the Outlander's interior design even though I agree that it could use some better quality materials in some places. However, I cannot stand the Santa Fe's interior design, not to mention the fake wood. They may have better materials, but this doesn't do it for me. As far as Rondo is concerned, I cannot even look at it, never mind consider buying it. But that's just me. Some obviously like both Rondo and Santa Fe. So I guess, since the looks are subjective, they shouldn't play a roll in any comparison.

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